Confirmed Signing with Link: [TOR] Leafs extend Kerfoot (4 years, $3.5M AAV)

[tucker3434]

No one is asking him to break out. At $3.5 he's being paid like a #6 forward while to date he has produced like a #5. If he drops back to a #6, guess what? That's what he's being paid as.

And if he drops back to an 8 or 9? Because he got those 5 numbers playing with two of the better players in the NHL. So it’s fine if your plan is to let him play half his time with Tavares and Marner. But if not...

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Putting up 25 ES points from the soft minutes he was in sucks. Period.

And this is even before getting into his playoff performance, where he was left in the dust and didn't record a single primary point in 12 games from 15 minutes of 2nd line icetime. There's a reason Colorado is completely rebuilding their 2nd line.

26 but I guess? It still places him stat wise in the exact place he's being paid for. Playoffs can be a concern but I'd hold off for better samples. Also still doesn't explain your PP1 contention.

 

[Mickey Marner]

It's always nice to see how concerned non-Leaf fans are about every Leafs player there ever was or will be. Sadly, this creepy obsession is not reciprocated, as I don't think about your players at all. Do enjoy spending your entire summer inside typing up essays about my team though, I'd hate to dishearten y'all from the highlight of your life.

 

[dubey]

It's always nice to see how concerned non-Leaf fans are about every Leafs player there ever was or will be. Sadly, this creepy obsession is not reciprocated, as I don't think about your players at all. Do enjoy spending your entire summer inside typing up essays about my team though, I'd hate to dishearten y'all from the highlight of your life.

707 replies on a player most on this board weren't even aware of until this trade lololol

Welcome to the mecca Kerfoot - enjoy yr stay

 

[Leaf Fans]

Marner getting paid in monopoly money?

Yes, he has agreed to be paid in monopoly money. The League says a SPC must be in US dollars, but they are the Leafs they are going to do what they want.

 

[Leaf Fans]

So the Leafs have only $2.3 million remaining in cap to sign Marner?

Yes, a team should sign him to a 7 year 42 million dollar offer sheet. That would really screw the Leafs!!!

 

[4thline]

From Avs fans I'm getting a very Bozak'y vibe (but faster). Vanilla guy, pass first, good on faceoffs, not defensive enough to be your typical 3C, not offensive enough to really be a top 6 C, gets a disproportionate amount of flak because he fits no ones mold.

 

[CupofOil]

Some of you are crazy.
This is a perfectly fine deal for a solid middle 6 player with some offensive skill. This is a better deal than the Connolly one for instance and yes I'm aware of RFA vs. UFA.

Whether people like to admit it or not, Dubas did pretty well this offseason all things considered. The RFA signings are great, the Kadri trade was good although risky if Barrie walks after next season, the Zaitsev trade was good and they are now to the point where they can sign Marner without having to move a bunch of cap and didn't lose much in the process. The Marleau trade was his only black mark, attaching a 1st is way too much for dumping 1 year of Marleau.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

And if he drops back to an 8 or 9? Because he got those 5 numbers playing with two of the better players in the NHL. So it’s fine if your plan is to let him play half his time with Tavares and Marner. But if not...

Except he didn't spend that much time with them. It's a completely false narrative. At ES he spent 16.6% of his minutes with them. If you look at being on the ice with one of them, it jumps to 28.5%. By far most of his time was spent with Wilson and Calvert, 26 and 27 point forwards. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he gets 16% of his time with some of Toronto's better players and the bulk of his time with better than 26 and 27 point forwards (heck a bunch of it will be with guys that have almost as many goals as those guys do points).

If you switch to PP, he again only spent 15.6% of his time with those two guys or if you look at at least one of them, it jumps to 37.8%.

Don't forget, Toronto can roll out seven 20 goal scorers versus the 4 Colorado had and they now have basically a 60 point and 70 point d-man versus Colorado's 60 and 27. Babcock loves to spread the wealth so I'm pretty sure he'll get better opportunity with better offensive players (and an offense first system).

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

From Avs fans I'm getting a very Bozak'y vibe (but faster). Vanilla guy, pass first, good on faceoffs, not defensive enough to be your typical 3C, not offensive enough to really be a top 6 C, gets a disproportionate amount of flak because he fits no ones mold.

Funny because Bozak was exactly what I was thinking, especially when someone mentioned plays dying on him. In Kessel's first year he should have easily had 15-20 more points if Bozak could just tap in gimmies. Bozak did improve though.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

Whether people like to admit it or not, Dubas did pretty well this offseason all things considered.

Complete failure. Needs to acquire more 6th and 7th rounders. Currently only 7 or 8 in 2020. Whole lot more available.

 

[BoxOfChocolates]

From Avs fans I'm getting a very Bozak'y vibe (but faster). Vanilla guy, pass first, good on faceoffs, not defensive enough to be your typical 3C, not offensive enough to really be a top 6 C, gets a disproportionate amount of flak because he fits no ones mold.

As an Avs fan I'd say this is pretty accurate.

 

[Brobust]

Why am I not surprised that Dubas got fleeced again?

We need to fire the kid and hire some of the very smart, very well educated HFBoards poster to right the ship.

 

[PAZ]

Seems to me a lot of genius AVs fans think they are smarter than Dubas, Gilman & Pridham. Makes you wonder why they aren’t working for an NHL team. Maybe their application got lost or something.

There's a reason why Sakic went out and signed Donskoi, traded for Burakovsky and gave up Kerfoot for scraps whil. Unless he improves significantly, you're going to wish he was gone sooner than later.

 

[tucker3434]

Except he didn't spend that much time with them. It's a completely false narrative. At ES he spent 16.6% of his minutes with them. If you look at being on the ice with one of them, it jumps to 28.5%. By far most of his time was spent with Wilson and Calvert, 26 and 27 point forwards. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he gets 16% of his time with some of Toronto's better players and the bulk of his time with better than 26 and 27 point forwards (heck a bunch of it will be with guys that have almost as many goals as those guys do points).

If you switch to PP, he again only spent 15.6% of his time with those two guys or if you look at at least one of them, it jumps to 37.8%.

If you’re playing him with a couple of 30 goal scorers at even strength and giving him solid pp time, okay. He’ll put up points. That’s pretty much an ideal situation, so anybody would. But if gets a more standard 3rd line role, you’re going to see his numbers slide.

 

[HandshakeLineRespect]

There's a reason why Sakic went out and signed Donskoi, traded for Burakovsky and gave up Kerfoot for scraps whil. Unless he improves significantly, you're going to wish he was gone sooner than later.

Interesting you think Kadri is scraps. Good luck with that one buddy.

 

[PAZ]

Interesting you think Kadri is scraps. Good luck with that one buddy.

Interesting you think Kerfoot was the main piece of the deal. Can I join you in your fantasyland?

 

[HandshakeLineRespect]

Interesting you think Kerfoot was the main piece of the deal. Can I join you in your fantasyland?

Nice straw man. I never said he was the main piece. Don’t move the goal posts just because I quoted yourself back to you and made you look foolish.

 

[crassbonanza]

Line Combinations - Frozen Tools

Line Combinations - Frozen Tools

Let me know when you see the difference. Kerfoot going to be playing with Tavares in TOR?

Kerfoot had 5.9% with Mac, Brown had 4.6% with Tavares. Are you arguing that Tavares is that much better than MacKinnon?

 

[AslanRH]

Interesting you think Kadri is scraps. Good luck with that one buddy.

They traded Barrie @50% for Kadri.

The rest is just the packing peanuts it took to get the deal done

 

[HandshakeLineRespect]

They traded Barrie @50% for Kadri.

The rest is just the packing peanuts it took to get the deal done

No they traded Kadri and Rosen for Kerfoot and Barrie with 50% retained with some picks going both ways. You can’t just chop it up and spin it so it fits some kind of asinine internet narrative.

 

[Avelanche]

If you’re playing him with a couple of 30 goal scorers at even strength and giving him solid pp time, okay. He’ll put up points. That’s pretty much an ideal situation, so anybody would. But if gets a more standard 3rd line role, you’re going to see his numbers slide.

by points you mean 40 points

 

[AslanRH]

No they traded Kadri and Rosen for Kerfoot and Barrie with 50% retained with some picks going both ways. You can’t just chop it up and spin it so it fits some kind of asinine internet narrative.

Sure, that's a fine approach.

Not really pushing a "narrative" as my comments in these threads should show, but you do seem to like to jump posts while ignoring their context, so keep firing.

 

[DanM]

Why? He is 24 years old...it's not like he is 32 years old.

Don't feed the trolls. The deal is quite fine, he was projecting more, and is only 24. He was just the whipping boy in Col.

No player is perfect, but no reason he cannot be a 50 point C on a consistent basis.

How much did Lee and his 51 points sign for in NY? LOL the 30 year old Lee.

Silly posters

 

[jetsforever]

Not cheap but not too pricey