Value of: Top 4 LHD to New Jersey

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Alec Martinez?

he is a bit older than what I had in mind, but I don't mind him as a player. Depending on the pricetag of course.

 

[KingsHockey24]

he is a bit older than what I had in mind, but I don't mind him as a player. Depending on the pricetag of course.

The things that would interest me as a Kings fan would be a 1st rounder, Wood, Serverson, Zacha and Johansson.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

The things that would interest me as a Kings fan would be a 1st rounder, Wood, Serverson, Zacha and Johansson.

If those are the pieces you want to discuss, Muzzin has to be part of the conversation.

If Martinez is all we can get from you guys, we’d probably go after a guy like Calvin de Haan in free agency.

 

[anezthes]

Just out of curiosity, what would you offer for Fowler?

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Just out of curiosity, what would you offer for Fowler?

what do the Ducks need?

Without knowing anything, I think it would be some package including our 1st, Severson, and a forward prospect

 

[Canadian Canuck]

What would you offer for Edler. 100% a top pairing dman.

Interested in:

#17th Overall
Santini
Severson
Zacha
McLeod
2019 1st

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

Just out of curiosity, what would you offer for Fowler?

I’d imagine it starts with our 1st (17OA) this year.

On top of that, I’d have to know a bit more about the Ducks’ needs. Your right side is pretty solid, no? If so, I don’t see Anaheim having much use for Severson.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

What would you offer for Edler. 100% a top pairing dman.

Interested in:

#17th Overall
Santini
Severson
Zacha
McLeod
2019 1st

Edler is a bit old for what we’re looking for, especially if those are the pieces on the table from our end.

 

[HellOnIce]

What would you offer for Edler. 100% a top pairing dman.

Interested in:

#17th Overall
Santini
Severson
Zacha
McLeod
2019 1st

Alex Edler is 32.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

I like Edler, but he also only has 1 year left on his contract and is a bit older than what I would be targeting

 

[Csonked Out]

I'm curious if we could pry Nick Leddy out of the Islanders after his tough season.

 

[Peter Griffin]

I don't think Edler would waive his NTC, even with the Sedins gone, and I suspect the Canucks would rather keep him around at this point anyway as their defense after him and Tanev is a complete joke.

 

[anezthes]

what do the Ducks need?

Without knowing anything, I think it would be some package including our 1st, Severson, and a forward prospect

I’d imagine it starts with our 1st (17OA) this year.

On top of that, I’d have to know a bit more about the Ducks’ needs. Your right side is pretty solid, no? If so, I don’t see Anaheim having much use for Severson.

Our RHDs are Manson, Montour and Welinski. I'm a fan of Severson but I don't think RHD is a pressing need.

I think our biggest need is skilled forwards. I'm surprised to see Zacha and McLeod on the list; have they fallen from grace?

 

[Csonked Out]

Our RHDs are Manson, Montour and Welinski. I'm a fan of Severson but I don't think RHD is a pressing need.

I think our biggest need is skilled forwards. I'm surprised to see Zacha and McLeod on the list; have they fallen from grace?

Zacha maybe a bit, but our defense is in such rough shape that it needs to improve.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

Our RHDs are Manson, Montour and Welinski. I'm a fan of Severson but I don't think RHD is a pressing need.

I think our biggest need is skilled forwards. I'm surprised to see Zacha and McLeod on the list; have they fallen from grace?

No. Including them on the list is just us being realistic, considering the caliber of defenseman we’re looking for.

As I said on the last page, I think Zacha would be moved before McLeod. I’d be very, very intrigued by a Zacha+ for Fowler trade.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Our RHDs are Manson, Montour and Welinski. I'm a fan of Severson but I don't think RHD is a pressing need.

I think our biggest need is skilled forwards. I'm surprised to see Zacha and McLeod on the list; have they fallen from grace?

the Devils "strength" is their forward prospects and their weakness (by far) is their left handed D. I think trading one of Zacha or McLeod in a package for a legit top 4 LHD makes a ton of sense given our organizational makeup.

 

[Owen Doty]

What would devils fans offer for TJ Brodie?

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

I don't know what the deal with with Noah Hanifin and why he hasn't gotten an extension yet, albeit, he is under RFA status. I would love it if the Devils take a shot at getting him. Carolina's left side is overloaded Jacob Slavin, Haydn Fluery, and now Jake Bean coming up. Their right side includes Justin Faulk, Brett Pesce, and TVR. Klas Dahlback being their 7th D.


Michael McLeod
2018 #17 Overall Pick
2020 3rd Round Pick



Noah Hanifin

I don’t see the benefit for Carolina beyond value. The Canes haven’t signaled that they’re retooling or rebuilding; trading a somewhat valuable NHL contributor with potential for more for a package of non-elite futures doesn’t make them more competitive in the short-term.

As far as Hanifin’s extension, I imagine he went unsigned because the organization was not as sure about him moving forward as they were Slavin and Pesce. Hanifin was very raw as a rookie. That carried over into the first ~60 games of his sophomore season. After Hainsey’s departure, his play really picked up. A long-term contract was justifiable based on his potential, but only at a certain AAV; he hadn’t earned Slavin money ($5.3 mil), for example. For Hanifin, it may not have made sense to get locked into a potential long-term underpayment under Pesce ($4 mil); if he were to pan out, his contract would be a rip-off. In that way, it made more sense to see how post-draft year 3 played out before making a decision for both sides. This season, Hanifin proved to still be raw defensively but showed some real offensive chops in the 1st half. Unfortunately, that tailed off in what was a disappointing 2nd half. I think his bargaining position is worse now than it was last summer. A see a pure bridge in his future.

 

[AfroThunder396]

I think our biggest need is skilled forwards. I'm surprised to see Zacha and McLeod on the list; have they fallen from grace?

In my opinion, winning the lottery and getting Hischier made one of them expendable. We don't need to keep both and they're probably our most attractive trade pieces, so why not use them to upgrade our defense. Kind of like how we all liked Henrique but he was made expendable by the extra depth we added.

Zacha is definitely an NHL player, great defensively and on the PK and is a guy that can play up (or down) in your lineup and not look out of place. He always looks like he's on the cusp of breaking out offensively, but there's a chance it doesn't and he's forever a middle-six guy like Zubrus or Ponikarovsky.

McLeod probably fits in with Shero's vision of speed more, but there's concerns about his offense transitioning to the pro game. I think there's a possibility of him being a legit #2 scoring center, but he has a "safe" floor of a Nick Bonino type #3C checker with modest offense.

Both of them were drafted as natural C's but a lot of Devils fans think their future might be at wing (specifically Zacha).

 

[MartyOwns]

I think our biggest need is skilled forwards. I'm surprised to see Zacha and McLeod on the list; have they fallen from grace?

mcleod isn't untouchable, but he's the closest thing to it. but zacha can f*** off for the right price

 

[Nocashstyle]

mcleod isn't untouchable, but he's the closest thing to it. but zacha can **** off for the right price

I'd hardly put McLeod near the untouchable category. We don't want to give him away, but he's a decently valued piece that can be expendable.

 

[Missionhockey]

I'd hardly put McLeod near the untouchable category. We don't want to give him away, but he's a decently valued piece that can be expendable.

It doesn't make sense to trade McLeod. The Devils put two years of development into him and waited for him to mature physically. It doesn't make sense to trade him before they can enjoy the fruit of their labor.

Zacha doesn't make a ton of sense to trade either but it makes more sense to trade him than McLeod. Zacha is the team's second line center and he just isn't ready for that role. That doesn't mean he'll never be since he's only 21, but right now he's probably not right for the role.

 

[AvatarAang]

What would you offer for Edler. 100% a top pairing dman.

Interested in:

#17th Overall
Santini
Severson
Zacha
McLeod
2019 1st

LOL

I guess Bozak is 100% a 1st line center

Just because your team sucks and Edler is forced to play on the 1st line because there is no one better, doesn't mean he is a top pairing dman.

He's a top 4D. There's nothing wrong with that.

 

[Nocashstyle]

It doesn't make sense to trade McLeod. The Devils put two years of development into him and waited for him to mature physically. It doesn't make sense to trade him before they can enjoy the fruit of their labor.

Zacha doesn't make a ton of sense to trade either but it makes more sense to trade him than McLeod. Zacha is the team's second line center and he just isn't ready for that role. That doesn't mean he'll never be since he's only 21, but right now he's probably not right for the role.

I'm not advocating trading him, but you need to give to get. If we're trading for a top 4 dman, we need to trade something of value, and McLeod is more expendable than most of our other higher value pieces .

 

[MartyOwns]

I'd hardly put McLeod near the untouchable category. We don't want to give him away, but he's a decently valued piece that can be expendable.

fair enough. I would, though. we don’t even know what we have with him yet, it wouldn’t make any sense to trade him.