AlphaLackey
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Jesus man, that's harsh. Shitty time of the year. All the best for your better half.
Post-Game Talk: This Is Not The Day I Die - Jets 4 Blues 0
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Jesus man, that's harsh. Shitty time of the year. All the best for your better half.
Agree. I don't mind someone who isn't as smooth talking if they provide useful analysis that isn't biased or subject to hype.
Not sure if it has been said or not but really classy move by the Jets for showing Thorbs the respect he deserved.
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Bob Cole is like listening to Marge Simpson call the game. "The player skates as fast as he can with the puck. He wants to take a good shot....and he does! But the goalie stopped it and now he's skating again to try and get the puck back."
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Its hard to take your criticism of Trouba seriously about taking some games off, when you defend Buff in the same sentence
MoreMorrissey
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Yeah that was me, personally I feel like Trouba has lost a step this year. Guy used to glide effortlessly around the ice (especially in his rookie campaign) but forecheckers are catching up to him frequently this year and it’s exposing his average at best puck handling skills. Dont know what his problem is but it’s leading to very poor play in his own end with the puck, good thing he has Morrissey who is always 3 steps ahead of everyone on the ice to make life easier for him on the breakout. Trouba simply needs to get back into shape with his skating and he won’t have to handle the puck under duress as much which is good for the whole team considering he handles it like a grenade ( even quarterbacking the PP last night he didn’t look comfortable with it)
Zhamnov5GoalGame
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Is there any doubt they would have?
Thorbs, Sniper, Nose whatever name you choose was True North through and through. A loyal glue guy with deep roots in our community.
He deserved a big ovation.
I loved his interview prior to the Sunday game where he talked about getting in a big bump on Benny (Chiarot) on Saturday. For a second I thought he meant this guy.
Zhamnov5GoalGame
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This assessment seems a little unfair but I would have no issue with Morrissey playing the PP (even when Buff comes back). PP time for Trouba is a carrot to help with future negotiations I would think. Overcharge loses some validity to any claims of misuse in regards to keeping Trouba's numbers down.
The Trouba that played last year is the guy we need.
It's tough to be a consistently top level player in the NHL every year.
Hopefully he will get back to more of his 2016/17 performances.
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Really sorry to hear that, I hope things are going ok?
Maurice matched hard against the Blues top two lines (Scheifele/Wheeler vs. Schenn/Tarasenko and Lowry/Copp vs. Steen/Stastny). Scheifele's line with Trouba/Morrissey smoked Schenn's line, and Lowry's line held their own vs. Steen's line, while Little/Laine/Ehlers feasted on the Blues' 3rd line (Berglund/Upshall). Jets' 4th line smoked the Blues' 4th line (Brodziak/Upshall/Thorbs).
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#depthMaurice matched hard against the Blues top two lines (Scheifele/Wheeler vs. Schenn/Tarasenko and Lowry/Copp vs. Steen/Stastny). Scheifele's line with Trouba/Morrissey smoked Schenn's line, and Lowry's line held their own vs. Steen's line, while Little/Laine/Ehlers feasted on the Blues' 3rd line (Berglund/Upshall). Jets' 4th line smoked the Blues' 4th line (Brodziak/Upshall/Thorbs).
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The calculation for Trouba is skewed by his bridge deal. It isn't just a simple matter of saying that player X is worth a certain amount and player Y is some other amount relative to that. Contract situation, the number of RFA years vs the number of UFA years and the length of the contract have to be taken into account. An 8 year term gives a different AAV than a 3 year term. Contracts signed some number of years later are usually a little larger - inflation/cap rise.
If Trouba signed 6x7.1666 to come into effect next season that would be just about equal to Schief's 8 year deal. Based on last year's play I figured that was just about what he was worth. An 8 year deal from Trouba would have justified a higher AAV. I was willing to accept a bit of an overpay to get him locked up and put an end to the uncertainty.
In hindsight I am just as glad we didn't go that route because his play this year has been at a much lower level than last year's, IMO. Unfortunately that probably means his trade market value is lower now too.
I've always been high on Morrissey and posted that I thought he was our best D much of the time last year, even though some advanced stats didn't support that assessment. I don't get any sense of attitude from JoMo. I expect Chevy will sign him next off-season with little trouble, for some number in the established market range.
I would not be unhappy if Chevy was able to get one of the top rated RHD prospects in trade for Trouba, Liljegren, Foote or similar along with whatever other pieces make up the value. A right side of Buff, Myers, Poolman for a couple of years while that prospect develops would fit the timeline and help cap management. The value of having players who are happy to be here is hard to measure.
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I love these charts. They do take a bit of time to fully digest though. Are you a Patreon contributor?Maurice matched hard against the Blues top two lines (Scheifele/Wheeler vs. Schenn/Tarasenko and Lowry/Copp vs. Steen/Stastny). Scheifele's line with Trouba/Morrissey smoked Schenn's line, and Lowry's line held their own vs. Steen's line, while Little/Laine/Ehlers feasted on the Blues' 3rd line (Berglund/Upshall). Jets' 4th line smoked the Blues' 4th line (Brodziak/Upshall/Thorbs).
Interesting to see the Little line vs Pietrangelo
Yes, these are interesting charts. I think they do show how the Jets are starting to use their depth, and in particular that 3rd line, to get good match-ups.
Sorry, don't know what Patreon is...
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Zhamnov5GoalGame
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A couple of comments from Blues fans on their boards after the game were that we were a deeper offensive team then them. Nice to hear someone else say it. Although if you added back in a couple of their injured players it would be a different match up. We're missing Buff and Toby but I would say they are missing more (not counting Fabbri).
Zhamnov5GoalGame
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Okay, thanks.
I'm not a contributor to Patreon. Like the stuff, though. Would consider it...
Buff never held out on a contract at any point in his career.
Whenever Jacob is mailing it in..you never really know if its a "I dont want to play in Wpg thing".
Totally agree with original poster.
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GJF
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We should honestly consider chipping in for a HFJets account. I'd be up to contribute some bucks for the patreon. Someone has the account and uploads the graphs on a regular basis and we help him pay it. A patreon for the actual patreon. Anyone else interested?
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Thorbs seem genuinely appreciative of the acknowledgement and standing O from the crowd. Pretty classy guy all around!
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He usually posts some of them the next day. There are extra goodies only available to contributors.
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