The Other Sports Thread (Titans, Vols, Dores, etc) - Part IV

[LCPreds]

Good job of screwing up the draft Titans!! Trade the 33rd pick next year along with 76 to pick a O-Lineman (again). Both the current Oilers (hockey) and the former ones don't know how to draft.

Interesting take considering all of the analysts seem to love what they've done.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Good job of screwing up the draft Titans!! Trade the 33rd pick next year along with 76 to pick a O-Lineman (again). Both the current Oilers (hockey) and the former ones don't know how to draft.

Was kinda wondering what you guys thought of all that...

The general consensus for Hawks fans is that the FO totally screwed the pooch by picking Floyd... whereas I actually like the pick. Oh well.

 

[Gnashville]

Interesting take considering all of the analysts seem to love what they've done.

Why would you give up a top the 76th pick and a 40 pick next year for an Offensive lineman that was slated to be there at #15 anyways? They already have drafted 3 in the last 4 years. This team needs defense not more linemen.

 

[Drake744]

Was it you that thought Mariota was a bad pick last year? But anyway, yes, offensive linemen are a bad investment when you have Mariota and DeMarco Murray. But I'm not a Titans fan and I'm stoked over my team's pick so what do I know?

 

[Gnashville]

Was it you that thought Mariota was a bad pick last year? But anyway, yes, offensive linemen are a bad investment when you have Mariota and DeMarco Murray. But I'm not a Titans fan and I'm stoked over my team's pick so what do I know?

I also predicted they would win 3 games at the most.

Jury is still out on Mariota he looked good at times and others he was injured (#1 issue with a running QB). Being on the sidelines for 6 games with a baseball cap and clipboard is not helping your team win games.

 

[Drake744]

I also predicted they would win 3 games at the most.

Jury is still out on Mariota he looked good at times and others he was injured (#1 issue with a running QB). Being on the sidelines for 6 games with a baseball cap and clipboard is not helping your team win games.

I thought he got injured because he was being sacked behind his terrible offensive line, (one with a dirty play at his knees), and not because he was running, which he rarely does unless he has to. His 90 yard TD run to beat the Jags was because his bad offensive line was breaking down so he ran. If I was a Titans fan I'd be furious if we didn't draft O Line.

 

[TitansVolsPreds615]

I also predicted they would win 3 games at the most.

Jury is still out on Mariota he looked good at times and others he was injured (#1 issue with a running QB). Being on the sidelines for 6 games with a baseball cap and clipboard is not helping your team win games.

Lol in the same thread you rip mariota for getting hurt and then rip the titans for moving up to ensure they got their favorite tackle to protect him, who by the way EVERYONE said would be gone by 15. Giants were taking him at 10.

 

[Gnashville]

I thought he got injured because he was being sacked behind his terrible offensive line, (one with a dirty play at his knees), and not because he was running, which he rarely does unless he has to. His 90 yard TD run to beat the Jags was because his bad offensive line was breaking down so he ran. If I was a Titans fan I'd be furious if we didn't draft O Line.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=15425236

 

[Drake744]

Yeah Conklin wasn't gonna be there at 15. A couple weeks ago maybe but not last night.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Lol in the same thread you rip mariota for getting hurt and then rip the titans for moving up to ensure they got their favorite tackle to protect him, who by the way EVERYONE said would be gone by 15. Giants were taking him at 10.

I know I'm just a dumb Hawks fan bandwagoner for you guys, and don't mean to overstep in the Nashville threads if I am, but the Giants were either going to take Conklin at 10, or Floyd at 10, depending which was available. It was why the Bears moved up ahead of the Giants to take Floyd once Conklin came off. Basically the Titans and Bears screwed the Giants.

They scrambled hard once they saw both those guys off the board, and reached on Apple at 10.

 

[Drake744]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=15425236

Paul Kuharsky? Really? I mean I like PK but he's not the gospel.

I mean it's fine. Say what you want about the team since you're the Titans fan not me, but what I see in them is a GM who was part of Belichick's inner draft trust circle that's now making moves that make total sense along with a franchise QB who won 3 games because the team around him is awful right now. I'm a Chargers fan and Rivers won 4 games last year. Does that mean he sucked? Absolutely not.

I know I'm just a dumb Hawks fan bandwagoner for you guys, and don't mean to overstep in the Nashville threads if I am, but the Giants were either going to take Conklin at 10, or Floyd at 10, depending which was available. It was why the Bears moved up ahead of the Giants to take Floyd once Conklin came off. Basically the Titans and Bears screwed the Giants.

They scrambled hard once they saw both those guys off the board, and reached on Apple at 10.

Nah you're good. And yes I think they reached on him. Maybe it's because he's a Jersey kid, who knows?

 

[Viqsi]

I know I'm just a dumb Hawks fan bandwagoner for you guys, and don't mean to overstep in the Nashville threads if I am, but the Giants were either going to take Conklin at 10, or Floyd at 10, depending which was available. It was why the Bears moved up ahead of the Giants to take Floyd once Conklin came off. Basically the Titans and Bears screwed the Giants.

They scrambled hard once they saw both those guys off the board, and reached on Apple at 10.

Surprised the heck out of me when I heard about that as well, but I'm not about to complain that they did. It made history for Ohio State - first time we've had three of our guys go in the top-10.

 

[Gnashville]

Paul Kuharsky? Really? I mean I like PK but he's not the gospel.

I mean it's fine. Say what you want about the team since you're the Titans fan not me, but what I see in them is a GM who was part of Belichick's inner draft trust circle that's now making moves that make total sense along with a franchise QB who won 3 games because the team around him is awful right now. I'm a Chargers fan and Rivers won 4 games last year. Does that mean he sucked? Absolutely not.

My and his point is that they continue using high draft picks on O-line. Linemen are like goalie you can find a great one in the 7 round. The skill level for being big and strong is minimal. He seems like a good kid and hard worker so hopefully it works out.

This remind me of the Predators continuing to draft defensmen every year Parent, Blum ect...

 

[TitansVolsPreds615]

My and his point is that they continue using high draft picks on O-line. Linemen are like goalie you can find a great one in the 7 round. The skill level for being big and strong is minimal. He seems like a good kid and hard worker so hopefully it works out.

This remind me of the Predators continuing to draft defensmen every year Parent, Blum ect...

When your most important franchise asset is being protected by those guys every single snap it makes a ton of sense. You have a young future superstar QB, you have to keep him healthy. QB is the most important position in the NFL. The Titans finally have one and they realize how important protecting him is after last year. Throwing him out there behind "a great one from the 7th round" would be insane.

 

[Drake744]

I understand the concept of not wanting to keep picking O-linemen in the first round. I do get it. With that said though, I will say that you have 3 picks pretty high tonight and it's a total luxury. If you want to go D-line at some point here tonight (I assume you do) it could be a really solid move. The draft is seen as really really deep in the front 7 on D. I heard a draft scout on the radio saying he's studied prospects for the last 30 or so years and this is one of the deepest defensive line drafts he's ever seen. I think there are plenty of first-round level defensive players that'll be taken in the 2nd round tonight. I fully expect the Titans to address that. That's why I think they made a good move in going ahead and getting their tackle by jumping ahead of the Giants who would've taken him.

 

[deanwormer]

Yeah Conklin wasn't gonna be there at 15. A couple weeks ago maybe but not last night.

yes, but if Conklin wasn't it was pretty likely that Tunseil would have been.... and Dekerd for sure.

I like Conklin as a pick, I don't like the cost to move up relative to what the worst-case outcome of staying at 15 would be.

 

[ChiHawks10]

yes, but if Conklin wasn't it was pretty likely that Tunseil would have been.... and Dekerd for sure.

I like Conklin as a pick, I don't like the cost to move up relative to what the worst-case outcome of staying at 15 would be.

Tunsil went at 13.

 

[RCola88]

Why would you give up a top the 76th pick and a 40 pick next year for an Offensive lineman that was slated to be there at #15 anyways? They already have drafted 3 in the last 4 years. This team needs defense not more linemen.

Do you watch the Titans? They need a line more than anything, the defense overall isn't that bad. Its the secondary and guys will be there early in the 2nd. Not a Tackle that can come in on day 1 and be a starter. It's a great pick, just not flashy like the peanut galley wants.

 

[RCola88]

A'shawn Robinson or Jarran Reed should be a must pick

 

[LCPreds]

I know that a lot of opinions are formed based on what you see in mock drafts. Just for the record, Kiper had Conklin at #4 (overall) in his final big board. Yeah he's just one person but generally speaking I've been seeing/hearing the same from other sources as well.

It seems the true strength of this draft is really where we are about to start picking tonight. We should come away with a huge haul tonight provided we avoid the temptation to take talent with baggage. I'd love Myles Jack but we're not in a good position to gamble on that. Reggie Ragland would be awesome too but have to weigh the risk there as well. Personally I hope we take Mackensie Alexander from Clemson with 33. I certainly wouldn't be against A'shawn Robinson either.

 

[Drake744]

I know that a lot of opinions are formed based on what you see in mock drafts. Just for the record, Kiper had Conklin at #4 (overall) in his final big board. Yeah he's just one person but generally speaking I've been seeing/hearing the same from other sources as well.

It seems the true strength of this draft is really where we are about to start picking tonight. We should come away with a huge haul tonight provided we avoid the temptation to take talent with baggage. I'd love Myles Jack but we're not in a good position to gamble on that. Reggie Ragland would be awesome too but have to weigh the risk there as well. Personally I hope we take Mackensie Alexander from Clemson with 33. I certainly wouldn't be against A'shawn Robinson either.

I somewhat disagree. I'd like the Chargers to take him at 35 if medically cleared but I feel like a team that's best suited to take him is a team like the Titans with extra picks to gamble with. I understand you guys have a lot of holes to fill but if you draft well and the one screw up is Jack and his inability to stay healthy, you still got a lot of productivity based on your number of picks. Whereas if we (or almost any other team) gambled on him and he busts, we wasted a second rounder.

 

[LCPreds]

I somewhat disagree. I'd like the Chargers to take him at 35 if medically cleared but I feel like a team that's best suited to take him is a team like the Titans with extra picks to gamble with. I understand you guys have a lot of holes to fill but if you draft well and the one screw up is Jack and his inability to stay healthy, you still got a lot of productivity based on your number of picks. Whereas if we (or almost any other team) gambled on him and he busts, we wasted a second rounder.

I get it. I'd love to take the guy but I also want to be sure whoever we pick at 33 actually sees the field. Just realized Chris Jones is still there and think that is probably a steal. Though this year is really shaking out to be the one where 15 - 60 is basically a vastly different board from analyst to analyst and team to team.

With that said, if we draft Myles Jack at 33 I'm not going to be upset about it.

 

[ChiHawks10]

I know that a lot of opinions are formed based on what you see in mock drafts. Just for the record, Kiper had Conklin at #4 (overall) in his final big board. Yeah he's just one person but generally speaking I've been seeing/hearing the same from other sources as well.

It seems the true strength of this draft is really where we are about to start picking tonight. We should come away with a huge haul tonight provided we avoid the temptation to take talent with baggage. I'd love Myles Jack but we're not in a good position to gamble on that. Reggie Ragland would be awesome too but have to weigh the risk there as well. Personally I hope we take Mackensie Alexander from Clemson with 33. I certainly wouldn't be against A'shawn Robinson either.

I like both of these guys from a Bears perspective as well. Wouldn't mind Dodd, either. Or Hunter Henry. Bears are in desperate need of a TE.

 

[LCPreds]

What do we actually think is the biggest current gaping need for the Titans at the moment? Should we use all of the 2nd rounders on defense (basically any position) or use one on a receiver?

 

[TitansVolsPreds615]

What do we actually think is the biggest current gaping need for the Titans at the moment? Should we use all of the 2nd rounders on defense (basically any position) or use one on a receiver?

DB and pass rush. We definitely need to pick up a receiver too. May be able to add a solid DL in the late rounds.