The Free Agency/Trades Thread (Proposals, Speculation, Rumors) III

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Enoch

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I agree that Hartnell has real value, and he would fit multiple needs for us: Net presence, goal scorer, edge.

The contract is good right now. We are all assuming a drop off, which to some degree is likely, but I agree with DCPS, it can be lived with.
 

AintLifeGrand

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EK says top flight defenseman and veteran forward... Josi, Jones, and Weber both would command Ryan Johansen without any additional pieces. Ekholm is considered to have top pairing potential right? Same with Ellis- Are both top flight? Perhaps.

Veteran Fwd.. Don't think it would be Gaustad, Nystrom, Fisher, or Ribeiro. Both Smith and Wilson could be considered veterans. Smith is the more valuable piece.

Maybe its Ekholm +Smith for Johansen?
 

Dave is a killer

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EK says top flight defenseman and veteran forward... Josi, Jones, and Weber both would command Ryan Johansen without any additional pieces. Ekholm is considered to have top pairing potential right? Same with Ellis- Are both top flight? Perhaps.

Veteran Fwd.. Don't think it would be Gaustad, Nystrom, Fisher, or Ribeiro. Both Smith and Wilson could be considered veterans. Smith is the more valuable piece.

Maybe its Ekholm +Smith for Johansen?

We don't have any LHD worth a damn, after the first 2, the DMan is coming from the RH Department.
 

Viqsi

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Maybe its Ekholm +Smith for Johansen?
Let's just say if that atrocity happened there would be a public lynching in the Arena District shortly afterward.

High-Demand Low-Availability Positions. #1C or #1D. That is the alpha and the omega of any Johansen trade. Neither of those two fill that. Or would y'all accept William Karlsson and Scott Hartnell for Jones? :)
 

Montross

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Let's just say if that atrocity happened there would be a public lynching in the Arena District shortly afterward.

High-Demand Low-Availability Positions. #1C or #1D. That is the alpha and the omega of any Johansen trade. Neither of those two fill that. Or would y'all accept William Karlsson and Scott Hartnell for Jones? :)

Never forget the Golden Rule of Hfboards poster trades: your player is always not worth much and our players are always worth more.
 

Roman Yoshi

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Jones + Wilson + pick of some kind for RyJo and Hartnell makes a whole lot of sense to me. I'd do it in a heart beat. Throw in Nystrom if Columbus would add a bottom pairing d-man not named Prout.
 

Drake744

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Eklund just stirring the pot I guess.....

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.....He also responded to another poster saying that Ellis won't be moved. Grains of salt.
 

AtlantaWhaler

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Hypothetically, because it's Ek, if those two are in the mix, I assume Jones would need to be as well.
 

Drake744

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Hypothetically, because it's Ek, if those two are in the mix, I assume Jones would need to be as well.
I believe him with his RyJo/Hartnell theory, but if his statement that Ellis won't be moved is also to be believed that pretty much seals the fate of Jones.
 

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I'm torn with this situation. Usually, I don't believe anything Eklund says but right now he might be pretty close. Last year he said that Jagr was coming here. Interesting times.. we shall see.
 

NSH615

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If Ek says it, then it is not happening. The guy just likes to stir the pot with the fans and generate traffic to his site and that's it.
 

Drake744

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If Ek says it, then it is not happening. The guy just likes to stir the pot with the fans and generate traffic to his site and that's it.
Believe me I don't think Eklund is the Holy Grail of rumor accuracy. The issue is in this case, half the league is in on the Johansen to the Preds rumor. If it doesn't happen he's certainly not the only one who missed. It's not like he pulled this out of nowhere and people think he's crazy for it. It's rare for him to say something and for most people to actually believe it has validity.
 

GeauxPreds

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The only reason I will even slightly believe this rumor has a chance is because neither Columbus nor Nashville are huge fanbases that would drive a lot of traffic to his website.
 

glenngineer

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If Jones is involved then it's probably not happening. Poile went on recored as saying he's not moving Jones. At the end of the day whom do we believe, EK or Poile?
 

Pred303

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To acquire any high caliber player we almost have to deal Jones. Obviously because he's the most desired by other teams, but also because of future salary considerations. We have enough money under the cap right now to give Jones and Forsberg their raises next year, I have no doubt that's why we are exactly where we are in salary structure this year. But if you add a Johansson or RNH or Duchene to the team, there simply won't be enough money to retain all three for more than a year. Ellis and Eckholm's deals fit. Jones' won't if we really get a 1st line center.

and as far as Eklund, I usually pay zero attention to his wild guess trades. Unless it's something involving the preds. Like trig said, Eklund has been much more accurate about pred deals than anyone else. he obviously has some key contacts inside pred management, probably more so than he does with most other teams.
 

NSH615

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He didn't say he wouldn't, he said he didn't want to touch his defense, but that's all anyone wants. There really isn't an impactful trade to be made otherwise.

He did say a trade with Jones was not happening. Granted that was a month ago and opinions do change, but he did say it.


[fieldset=Nashville Post]
To all those waiting and watching for the Nashville Predators to trade defenseman Seth Jones for a high-scoring forward or two, David Poile has a message.

“That’s not happening,” the general manager told the Nashville Post on Thursday.

https://www.nashvillepost.com/blogs...de_not_part_of_predators_plans_for_seth_jones
[/fieldset]
 

Pred303

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everytime I think of Hartnell and all of his prime years we let get away from us I always think back to his last year here with us and cuss Peterson. Handtrick and I were fairly tight to the team that year, and at the Pred ball that year, right when Hartnell was in his contract year and negotiations were at an impass. Handtrick and I were having a drink with Hartnell and asked him ok, let's solve this contract deal. What would it take for you to sign a 4 year deal with Nashville? If they give you 3 mil a year for 4 years would you take it? Hartnell and his wife told us, "would sign that deal tomorrow". We then walked over to Peterson and told him what Hartnell would sign for, and Peterson laughed and said, no way would we give Hartnell 3 million a year and I wouldn't even approach Poile with that. Would have been a steal. Have disliked Peterson ever since lol
 

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AtlantaWhaler

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"Top flight defenseman and a veteran forward" is what EK reported.

Then Wilson moves to C in practice yesterday.

So my guess is something around.

Jones + Ribeiro

For

Johansen + Hartnell

Then we run this top six.

Forsberg-Johansen-Neal
Hartnell-Wilson-Smith

Or something close to that.

Gotta say...I LOVE that top line :popcorn:
 

MrJoshua

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I wonder if the "veteran forward" might be Hodgson. That would make room to push Fisher down to the third line.

edit: Not that I really expect CBJ to go for that...
 
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