Prospect Info: The 2023 NHL Entry Draft Thread

[tbcwpg]

Yeah the argument at that time was something like "why are some of you being so negative writing this trade off before the guy has even played a game for the Jets, let's talk about it 5 years from now"... it has been 5+ years now...

I think the use of "devastating" is still hyperbole. I haven't liked Stanley much but he's been an ok defenceman and the combo of Dennis Cholowski (who I believe a few people wanted the Jets to pick over Stanley) or German Rubtsov and Pascal Laberge hasn't exactly lit the league on fire either.

I don't think they'd make that trade again but to call it devastating cheapens the point you're trying to make and makes it easier to dismiss.

 

[Jetabre]

I think most of us here did not like trading up to select Logan Stanley at the time it was done.

 

[Whileee]

Oh good, we've reached the "revisit the Stanley draft gambit 7 years later" phase of the discussion.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I think most of us here did not like trading up to select Logan Stanley at the time it was done.

That - and many of us didn't like taking Stanley anytime before the 3rd or 4th rd. He was a mid to late round gamble that you take because you can't teach 6'7.

I would not have taken him with either 22 or 36.

The risk was that he would be gone if we waited. Not much of a risk.

Oh good, we've reached the "revisit the Stanley draft gambit 7 years later" phase of the discussion.

You knew it was coming.

While we are at it .......... Lee Stempniak.
There, now that one is out of the way too.

 

[JetsFan815]

I think the use of "devastating" is still hyperbole. I haven't liked Stanley much but he's been an ok defenceman and the combo of Dennis Cholowski (who I believe a few people wanted the Jets to pick over Stanley) or German Rubtsov and Pascal Laberge hasn't exactly lit the league on fire either.

I don't think they'd make that trade again but to call it devastating cheapens the point you're trying to make and makes it easier to dismiss.

I am not saying the Jets were guaranteed to get good NHL players out of #22 and #36, sure the Jets could have drafted Rubstov and Leberge with those picks and still end up with nothing, just that standing and making those picks was a better bet than trading so much for Stanley who statisically wasn't anywhere close to a 1st round pick at that time. I don't know what the Jets draft board looked like but if the Jets have 2 kicks at the can then maybe the are able to use one of them to draft Girard/DeBrincat and even if they don't that's fine as it still would be better than the Stanley hail-mary pass.

What I don't like about that draft was that there was too much of a "we feel like we already won the draft by winning the lottery and drafting Laine so we are playing with house money now and may as well take wild bet on Stanley" vibe with that move. If the Jets hadn't won the lottery and just drafted at 6th overall I doubt they make that move.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

That - and many of us didn't like taking Stanley anytime before the 3rd or 4th rd. He was a mid to late round gamble that you take because you can't teach 6'7.

I would not have taken him with either 22 or 36.

The risk was that he would be gone if we waited. Not much of a risk.



You knew it was coming.

While we are at it .......... Lee Stempniak.
There, now that one is out of the way too.

Eyssimont. Hattrick complete.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Eyssimont. Hattrick complete.

Well played. I forgot about him.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

7. Oliver Moore
12. Gabe Perreault
13. Brayden Yager
15. Colby Barlow

I haven't seen a single mock draft where all 4 of these guys were off the board by 18. That has me very, very excited. Like Ehlers and Nylander both on the board excited. Almost as excited as Barzal and Connor still available excited.

 

[puck stoppa]

I haven't seen a single mock draft where all 4 of these guys were off the board by 18. That has me very, very excited. Like Ehlers and Nylander both on the board excited. Almost as excited as Barzal and Connor still available excited.

This draft excites me. It has so many good players around where we pick and in fact if we got one of those 4 I’d be over the moon. I like all 4 a lot. Danielson, Benson and Dvorsky will be gone though sadly. I’m not a huge Honzek fan either.

 

[KingBogo]

This draft excites me. It has so many good players around where we pick and in fact if we got one of those 4 I’d be over the moon. I like all 4 a lot. Danielson, Benson and Dvorsky will be gone though sadly. I’m not a huge Honzek fan either.

This would be a hell of a draft to get another mid 1st selection. I keep coming back to the Pens pick at #14. Do the move it as a part of a Helly deal?

 

[puck stoppa]

This would be a hell of a draft to get another mid 1st selection. I keep coming back to the Pens pick at #14. Do the move it as a part of a Helly deal?

Yes, I think Helly is the only hope to get another first. NJ have a first this year?

 

[ps241]

Someone I know who's very plugged into the hockey world thinks the Jets should draft Danielson or Yager, so those two have risen to the top of my list at #18.

I would be fine with either of those picks.

 

[KingBogo]

Yes, I think Helly is the only hope to get another first. NJ have a first this year?

Nope. That belongs to the Sharks.

 

[macmaroon]

Oh good, we've reached the "revisit the Stanley draft gambit 7 years later" phase of the discussion.

 

[ICdave]

FYI: We are doing a live Illegal Curve Hockey Round 1 show starting at 6 PM tomorrow night. Hoping to have the Jets draft pick on like we normally do. Hope folks will join us here.

 

[Halfy]

I hope Danielson is gone. Besides the fact he plays in Brandon (no, the jets don’t need to just draft Western Canada guys), he has a low ceiling and a high floor. Basically a low end 2C or a solid 3C potential. Among the oldest players in the class and couldn’t score points in the W. No thanks. Inb4 “Brandon wasn’t good”. Did that stop others like Heidt, Ziemmer, Honzek and Cristall? You don’t take guys like that in R1 if you want to take a step forward in your organization.

Sale, Honzek, Barlow, Yager, Musty, Simashev, ASP, Willander, Stenberg I’d take above him. Even Molendyk, Brindley, Cristall.

If Moore or Perreault falls they would be great too. Not a Cal Ritchie fan.

 

[Guardian17]

FYI: We are doing a live Illegal Curve Hockey Round 1 show starting at 6 PM tomorrow night. Hoping to have the Jets draft pick on like we normally do. Hope folks will join us here.

Awesome!!

 

[ICdave]

Awesome!!

I appreciate it! Thanks you.

We are sneaking in a show tnt at 9 PM re: Dubois trade for those who are interested (Link here).

 

[Guardian17]

I appreciate it! Thanks you.

We are sneaking in a show tnt at 9 PM re: Dubois trade for those who are interested (Link here).

Thanks!

I posted a link to your YouTube show on the Dubois trade thread on the main HFBoards this afternoon so I hope it got you some extra views!

 

[ICdave]

Thanks!

I posted a link to your YouTube show on the Dubois trade thread on the main HFBoards this afternoon so I hope it got you some extra views!

The views have been great so double thanks!!

 

[Aggie204]

Top of the HFJets board now, Chevy got rid of the itch. C’mon I want a 1st and 1RHD for Helle.

 

[Daximus]

Top of the HFJets board now, Chevy got rid of the itch. C’mon I want a 1st and 1RHD for Helle.

Unlikely we get a 1RHD for Helle. But a decently high 1st isn't out of the question.

 

[Aggie204]

Unlikely we get a 1RHD for Helle. But a decently high 1st isn't out of the question.

As much as my preconceived notions on Chevys inactivity, I believe. Heh

 

[Daximus]

As much as my preconceived notions on Chevys inactivity, I believe. Heh

It's not entirely impossible. But more likely we get a draft pick and a lesser goalie out of the equation. Potentially Schmid+ from the Devils or UPK+ from the Sabres.

I think no matter where Helle goes the Jets will want someone between the pipes in return.

 

[Gil Fisher]

It's not entirely impossible. But more likely we get a draft pick and a lesser goalie out of the equation. Potentially Schmid+ from the Devils or UPK+ from the Sabres.

I think no matter where Helle goes the Jets will want someone between the pipes in return.

I suggested Vanecek and Holtz on the trade thread. It wouldn't need to happen tomorrow. Devils should have room after extending Maier and Tofoli takes up a RW spot on the roster.