Confirmed with Link: Teravainen and Bickell to Canes

[Navin R Slavin]

We'll see how Aho+TT look 20 games in. I think judging them before that will be premature.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

We'll see how Aho+TT look 20 games in. I think judging them before that will be premature.

Agree. I don't see Aho as a guy who will come out of the gate quickly as his game seems to be more cerebral so he'll take time to adjust to the rink size, speed/size of the game, Canes system, teammates etc..

Guys like Skinner, who are goal scorers, can adapt more quickly and make an impact, and hit the ground running as a rookie more easily IMO.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Agree. I don't see Aho as a guy who will come out of the gate quickly as his game seems to be more cerebral so he'll take time to adjust to the rink size, speed/size of the game, Canes system, teammates etc..

Guys like Skinner, who are goal scorers, can adapt more quickly and make an impact, and hit the ground running as a rookie more easily IMO.

Aho scores on opening night. Sure, it'll be the only goal in the 5-1 loss but that's inconsequential.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

The Aho//Lindholm//Teräväinen line is the thing I am most curious about on this whole team.

 

[The Faulker 27]

The Aho//Lindholm//Teräväinen line is the thing I am most curious about on this whole team.

Personally, I'm obsessed with how bad Ryan Murphy will be.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I'm obsessed with our 4th line as that is what will make or break this team. Will it be Bickell, or Torres, or Stalberg, or PDG, or Nordstrom, or Nestrasil, or McGinn, or Brown, or Foegele? Can anyone unseat McClement?

Don't envy the coaches and GM having to make this tough decision, which will likely define the fate of this team.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I'm obsessed with our 4th line as that is what will make or break this team. Will it be Bickell, or Torres, or Stalberg, or PDG, or Nordstrom, or Nestrasil, or McGinn, or Brown, or Foegele? Can anyone unseat McClement?

Don't envy the coaches and GM having to make this tough decision, which will likely define the fate of this team.

i know this is a joke but mcclement was just not good last year

too bad none of those guys are centers or hed have some competition

 

[the halleJOKEL]

i will play center for him

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

i know this is a joke but mcclement was just not good last year

too bad none of those guys are centers or hed have some competition

Brown is. And frankly, he's been one of the more impressive "non-NHLr" in the limited pre-season action I've seen. He's plays physical, seems to be responsible defensively, played on the PK, seems to skate well, etc..

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Brown is. And frankly, he's been one of the more impressive "non-NHLr" in the limited pre-season action I've seen. He's plays physical, seems to be responsible defensively, played on the PK, seems to skate well, etc..

Doc Emrick called out Brown for having a great game last night, fwiw.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Doc Emrick called out Brown for having a great game last night, fwiw.

yeah but so did pierre so i think that a net zero

 

[CandyCanes]

Anyone else been impressed by Derek Ryan? I think he'd be a nice option at 4th line center for us.


And back to Teuvo talk.

The Aho - Lindholm - Teravainen line is such a huge wild card, and an intriguing one at that. I could see them all teaming up to score around 65-75 goals combined this season. But at the same time they might only score 30-40 goals this year. Like I wouldn't be shocked if these kids are playing well that they may eventually get the tougher matchups. But I also wouldn't be shocked if it's all ends up being a slight disappointment haha.

 

[Sens1Canes2]

I'm obsessed with our 4th line as that is what will make or break this team. Will it be Bickell, or Torres, or Stalberg, or PDG, or Nordstrom, or Nestrasil, or McGinn, or Brown, or Foegele? Can anyone unseat McClement?

Don't envy the coaches and GM having to make this tough decision, which will likely define the fate of this team.

The 4th line makes or breaks this team? I'm surprised to read that.

If anything (in my very humble opinion), there are a multitude of factors more important than the 4th line composition and performance.

Goaltending, sophomore slumps from the young D, goaltending, Aho-Lindholm-TT, goaltending, and Jordan Staal...

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

The 4th line makes or breaks this team? I'm surprised to read that.

If anything (in my very humble opinion), there are a multitude of factors more important than the 4th line composition and performance.

Goaltending, sophomore slumps from the young D, goaltending, Aho-Lindholm-TT, goaltending, and Jordan Staal...

nope, its the 4th line

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

The 4th line makes or breaks this team? I'm surprised to read that.

If anything (in my very humble opinion), there are a multitude of factors more important than the 4th line composition and performance.

Sorry S1C2. It was a completely sarcastic post playing on how this board often focuses a lot of the angst on fringe player (Harrison, Terry, Malone, Dwyer, etc..) vs. the real problems the team face.

IMO, Goal scoring (or Lack there-of), particularly from our top 9; and goaltending are what is going to make or break this team.

 

[Ole Gil]

I know it was a joke, but the way the 4th line has been used in recent history, it could easily sink this team, or at least play a major part in sinking it.

McClement rolled in at a -17. That's a big hole to dig for an offense that looks like it is going to score 2 goals on a good night.

Looking at the line combos in the top 9, I think they're probably going to want the 4th line to play some meaningful minutes in the defensive zone again this year (rather than stick the kids out there or Skinner's line).

Maybe not the most important thing, but it is critical to the team the 4th line doesn't get destroyed every night like they did last year.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

This team isn't strong enough in any 1 area to have a glaring weakness or detriment in any other area. The point being, even if the team has a solid 4th line, unless scoring and goaltending comes around, this team is still missing the playoffs. On the flipside, if the scoring and goaltending does come around, the team can still make the playoffs even if the 4th line is avg/sub par.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I focus on the 4th line because it's an easily fixable problem, unlike our lack of legit top-6 forwards, our lack of a top-30 goalie, and our lack of a crush-worthy sideline reporter.

 

[Joe McGrath]

I know it was a joke, but the way the 4th line has been used in recent history, it could easily sink this team, or at least play a major part in sinking it.

McClement rolled in at a -17. That's a big hole to dig for an offense that looks like it is going to score 2 goals on a good night.

Looking at the line combos in the top 9, I think they're probably going to want the 4th line to play some meaningful minutes in the defensive zone again this year (rather than stick the kids out there or Skinner's line).

Maybe not the most important thing, but it is critical to the team the 4th line doesn't get destroyed every night like they did last year.

If the wings on the 4th line are guys like Stalberg, Bickell, PDG, Nestrasil, and Nordstrom, it'll go a long way in improving upon last year.

Interestingly, Mcclement's numbers with Cam in goal aren't terrible (still not positive), but with Lack are beyond putrid. Like an astounding GA/60 of almost 5 compared to just under 2 with Cam. I'd have to back and look but perhaps some of McClements awful +/- came from 2 or 3 of those miserable 5-1 type games Lack started and the team as a whole was worthless?

 

[Sens1Canes2]

Sorry S1C2. It was a completely sarcastic post playing on how this board often focuses a lot of the angst on fringe player (Harrison, Terry, Malone, Dwyer, etc..) vs. the real problems the team face.

IMO, Goal scoring (or Lack there-of), particularly from our top 9; and goaltending are what is going to make or break this team.

F me. My bad.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

mcclement wasn't particularly good last year, but i'd bet that most 4th line centers would wind up heavy in the minus with similar usage. ahl linemates for the most part, 41% offensive zone starts, bad goaltending.

he wound up with a 46.3% corsi despite his usage, which isn't terrible. how much of that +/- had to do with poor ES goaltending and linemates who have no clue how to play defense and/or are black holes offensively? brock mcginn went -14 in just 21 games, gerbe -15 in 47. mcclement's -17 in 77 games doesn't look so bad in context.

i don't think patrick brown would do any better in that role. and correct me if i'm wrong, but hasn't he mostly played RW in the AHL? has he spent any significant time at C since college? i know that all of his NHL games have been at RW.

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

Where is Teuvo expected to play in the line up this season?

I hope he does well for you - I was regretful that the Hawks traded him.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

"3rd" line with Aho and Lindholm.

 

[Stubu]

Looking at the WCoH, the preseason, the first regular season game... what do you think is Teravainen's problem? How is he so completely lost?

Bickell in turn has looked actually useful in Canes?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Looking at the WCoH, the preseason, the first regular season game... what do you think is Teravainen's problem? How is he so completely lost?

Bickell in turn has looked actually useful in Canes?

I think the problem is it's been 1 game, on a new team, which he missed most of training camp due to the WC. If 10 games in he's still struggling, then I'll be worried.