Star Ocean
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I agree he has played well, but thats not the same definition as great.
Semantics i guess.
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Semantics i guess.
How many spots are there left to fill?
Players I’d invite:
Landeskog(Injured?)
Söderberg
Klingberg
Nyquist(Contract, probably injured)
E. Karlsson(Contract, probably injured)
Sörensen
Sundqvist
Wennberg
Yes I know all of them can’t be invited, since some of them will move on to the conference-finals and so forth.
Players I’d invite:
Landeskog(Injured?)
Söderberg
Klingberg
Nyquist(Contract, probably injured)
E. Karlsson(Contract, probably injured)
Sörensen
Sundqvist
Wennberg
Yes I know all of them can’t be invited, since some of them will move on to the conference-finals and so forth.
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theslatcher
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Sörensen & Sundqvist also have no contracts.
Technically no spots are filled yet I believe, but 4 skaters I'd believe.
Ah, well my best case scenario still stays the same Landeskog, Söderberg, Wennberg and Klingberg.
Wise for Buffalo maybe. But as a swede: My sincerest f*** you to the sabres front office.
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Of course, Dahlin is Sabres newest most precious baby, whatever it takes to protect him from any scratches.
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It's a f***ed up case of oligarchical meddling. Bad for Team Sweden, bad for international hockey.
Star Ocean
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Klingberg is the player i want.
Landeskog is nice but he might play injured. Also I think Avs might move on.
If we dont get another forward I wouldnt mind Victor Olofsson.
Lucas wallmark is still playing but it wont be time to wait for 3rd round players.
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I’d rather have Alex Nylander. Olofsson is not good enough 5v5. The only use for him would be the right circle on the PP which is already occupied by Elias Pettersson and Jesper Bratt or maybe William Nylander. All that said I don’t think an NA player that was made available after the regular season ended will be invited at this stage.
Star Ocean
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Nylander brothers playing toghether would be nice. It never happneded at wjc 2015.
I think that there is a good possibility that we dont get anymore reinforcements though.
It did happen for like half a period before Egli decided it was a good idea to concuss William. He even scored a goal that i believe Alex got an apple on.
Yeah that’s not unlikely at all, unfortunately.
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Absolutely not. Dahlin gaining the experience playing for a good team, on big ice which promotes his biggest qualities... there's a reason Buffalo is a bottom team. If Dahlin was older and had more balls, he could've answered "I respect your advice and opinion, but I'm going, end of story. It's within my right to do so."
What are they going to do? Threaten to trade him? Bench him? Lol. Maybe Buffalo was afraid Dahlin would appreciate playing with quality teammates too much, they want to keep him in the losing culture chamber and not taste the green grass. Dead grass is good enough.
Dumb advice from Buffalo and no balls from Dahlin not understanding they can't demand shit if he clears the medical check. Or, Dahlin didn't want to play anyway and used Buffalo as an excuse? Who knows?
All in all, we know where we have Dahlin now, he's not interested in representing his country, as it seems. As seen by the reply by Grönborg, I think the honest response he got from Dahlin would've looked ridiculous if read by Swedish fans. Hence: "Ask him." No other player but Dahlin had that response by Grönborg than Dahlin. Grönborg was protecting him, but still keeping his own honesty.
My respect for Dahlin: --. f*** him. If Dahlin would've given some response that didn't sound idiotic, Grönborg would've informed us what it was. "I'm banged up, I don't feel 100%", whatever. Nope. He must've replied something especially dumb to Grönborg. All in all, I think we can assume Dahlin can't be counted on for shit when it comes to representing Swedish hockey.
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VictorLustig
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Dahlin will have many more chances to participate in this tournament, he's still a teenager. Watching him play in the NHL his year it was painfully obvious how weak he is, the explosiveness in his game is not there at all. I've been higher on him than most people but I don't think he'd make wonders for a Swedish WC team just yet.
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So what? He still could've come up with a "legitimate" response. "I don't feel 100%, my mom's dog has his 7th birthday in the middle of may, I have a dental surgery soon, I have to give time to my non-existant family, I have to wax my car", whatever. I mean... you can say anything. And Grönborg would've given the answer. Not with Dahlin. Only Dahlin. That worries me, because it must've been... special. Because if Grönborg knows Dahlin's answer was too dumb to say to the media... you know what I mean?
Even the answer "My employer feels I need to train hard before the next season and I have to respect that, because I feel the same" would've been enough. Instead, only silence and Grönborg declining to tell the reason. Idiotic.
No other player gave the response Grönborg gave to the media, but Dahlin. It was almost sarcastic and very dry in its tone. "You have to ask him." (as if it was something truly ridiculous). Watch it again. Maybe I read into it too much, but I have a bad feeling about this guy. Maybe Grönborg was tired of the media, but I think Grönborg just shook his head considering Dahlin's response.
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VictorLustig
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They could have handled it better but I don't see many people rioting about it. Grönborg is rumored to coach the Sabres next season so perhaps he wants to keep a low profile.
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You're reading into it too much, typical Grönborg I'd say.
Have no qualms with Dahlin as it was his first ever NHL season and his first ever team asked him to do so(doubt it was structured as advice), Buffalo however I don't understand when every other team only steps in if there's an injury.
Just this year we have Pettersson who ran out of gas at the end of his first season and had gone through a concussion and knee injurt, and Bratt who was injured in the last month of his second season(and had a jaw injury to start the season) and neither of their teams had any problems with them going since they cleared their medicals.
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Sure and I'm open for that I'm reading into it too much. But then Grönborg is the ass, that couldn't say Dahlin feels he needs to prepare for the next season and he feels the pressure as an underage, upcoming superstar defenseman, or whatever.
There could be a deal in a slight chance, who knows? All I know someone has been an ass in this situation. The Sabres management, Dahlin, Grönborg or several, or all of them. What the heck is so difficult to relate into a response? Silence says more than answers sometimes and that bugs me. Why is it so difficult to just relay a message about the reason X, where X can be anything? It's just incompetent.
Or scenario Z) Sabres management are asses, Dahlin has no balls and Grönborg wants to be employed by the asses. All scenarios are possible, but it just reeks of something that smells bad. Silfverberg could say he has a dentist appointment and it was fine. Dahlin couldn't even lie. It's just fishy.
But whatever, enough with my conspiracy theories, this team should be good enough to go to battle. Sure, our forwards are kind of mediocre overall, our defense is kind of uneven, while our goaltending is strong. Still, as I've said, this will be a very hard team to beat. Well, as long as you don't play the bad players 1/3 of the game and generate lines and D-pairings that look like a dice roll. Top quality wise, we have really solid players in all positions, while our depth is mediocre.
Offense: 6-7/10 (because of depth, but also we don't have any real superstars). Question mark if Pettersson and Nylander can carry the load. If they can, the rest will follow. No big star veteran, that is a bad thing.
Defense: 7-8/10 (because of depth, but we have some pretty damn good defensemen, especially with Ekholm). Ekman-Larsson, Larsson and Ekholm are top notch for us, also Gustavsson in Chicago is a great offensive specialist. The rest? Ugh.
Goaltending: 8-9/10 (would've been 9-10/10 with Markström, hopefully he can be back, even if I feel it was Lundqvist's position to lose). As I've said, I'm a huge Lundqvist fan and I think Markström is equally good at this point. I have to say Lundqvist looked really sharp against the Czechs though, so I don't exactly feel worried with him in net. He's a true competitor and hates to lose. Even then, Enroth is a better goalie than the starters for most nations this tournament, which admittedly doesn't say much.
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theslatcher
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Grönborg said since day 1 that he wouldn't say why the players declined, and that you'd have to ask the player.
To be fair Silfverberg was the one to tell his excuse for declining to the media himself. Nonetheless the federation was Nice enough to list injury as the reason on their Homepage.
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Sure and it was a bullshit reason. Still, I at least want a bullshit reason from Dahlin as well, at least? A twitter message? Anything? Ok, he's going to play it that way. Fine. Be that way. Total silence, because he chose to. I still don't buy it, he's f***ing paid millions to be a professional hockey player.
Fair enough, I believe you, wrong assumption by me. I still maybe see some intonation in Grönberg's response that... who cares, why the hell can't Dahlin give a response?
He wants to be the diva? Too good enough? Fine. It still bugs me he can't give a f***ing answer, even if it's a lie or a ridiculous response. He's not loyal. That's my interpretation of this mess. Or, he's a very introvert guy. That can be very possible too.
Heck, I don't care as much as I write, I'm not as passionate as you might perceive, but it's the pre-WHC-part, what the heck can you else speculate about? I won't divert this thread any longer, it was just my arguments for drama, hehe. I have no clue, but I'm free to speculate. Still, I'm pissed off this was handled so poorly and we needed Dahlin. He couldn't even care for an answer.
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Carlson hockey games:
PP1
OEL
Pettersson (right halfwall)- Hörnqvist(netfront/slot) - Lindholm(left halfwall f.o duties)- Eriksson(behind the net/netfront)
Pp2
Gustafsson(right/QB) - Larsson(left point/halfwall?)
Bratt (right halfwall) - Kempe (Slot/netfron/left halfwall?) - Lindblom(see Kempe)
Yeah sorry about the second PP I honestly don’t know how they meant to ice it, the only thing that was clear was that Bratt was supposed to man the right halfwall. The rest of it was just a discombobulated mess.
To a degree I can understand why the second PP looked like it did there was no good way to really ice it. If Nylander wasnt going to join the team they would’ve likely doubleteamed Pettersson on the PP.
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