Speculation: Some non-media sources say Devils and Flames have agreement on Markstrom trade

[Pierce Hawthorne]

"It's really difficult to do and it stopped in it's tracks"

Is that what he said?


Doesn't sound like very serious talks at all if that's true lol

 

[Forge]

Is that what he said?


Doesn't sound like very serious talks at all if that's true lol

Yep. Couldn't agree on retention, or trade package so they stopped in their tracks lol

 

[crackdown44]

Yep. Couldn't agree on retention, or trade package so they stopped in their tracks lol

It is tough to make a trade when you can’t agree on either of the only two components of a trade

 

[Mobiandi]

I’ll take Mercer and a 1st thanks

 

[DropIt]

Price is likely astronomical if they want retention. Markstrom has been good, the Flames are in a playoff race, and Markstrom has been very solid this year.

Not to mention his brand new kid and Im sure getting him to agree to waive is a tough ask on top of it

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I don’t see a Markstrom trade happening.

1. No one is wanting to pay a lot for a goalie getting ready to hit 35 years and have a big cap hit.

2. Teams will be offering low anyways and retaining will add to the value but still not enough for Calgary.

Calgary will have to budge or keep Markstrom with the likelihood his value is the highest he will have

 

[Lunatik]

My response to this...

No shit Sherlock

Of course they talked, of course the Flames aren't interested in retention, and of course they want a really good return.

Is that what he said?


Doesn't sound like very serious talks at all if that's true lol

He also said "I think" before he said serious and before the supposed complications

 

[Zirakzigil]

Wasnt remotely close because Markstrom himself stated that he hasnt been asked to waive his NMC.

 

[dtown77]

Retention and trade return. Seems like the 2 biggest obstacles possible. Seems unlikely

Made chuckle.. yeah sounds like the headline should be. Devils identify player they want to trade for.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Legit in the sense that the Devils made a serious attempt, or at least what they thought was a serious attempt.

But it turns out what they were willing to pay doesn't come close to what the Flames want. So talks stopped.

It's not that complicated. I'd guess the Devils wanted the Flames to retain on Markstrom for the next 2 years and for that, Conroy wanted Mercer+, which obviously the Devils don't want to do.

 

[Mirka the Turka]

Markstrom for a 1st round pick and Nathan Bastian

I think it's a fair trade.

 

[neelynugs]

retention seems unnecessary. just trade vanecek to calgary in the deal, and flip vladar elsewhere. there's your retention. flames will need a reasonable vet goalie with wolf anyway.

 

[Killing Joke]

And nothing happened because Fitzgerald is a bitch screwing the devils over every which way this year. What a shit gm

 

[Mike Jones]

Could just be an early conversation with a timeline extending into the summer. A deal for a player like Markstrom probably involves a lot of moving parts and approvals and sheer math. Salary retention, alone, could be a serious discussion for both organizations.

 

[Mirka the Turka]

And nothing happened because Fitzgerald is a bitch screwing the devils over every which way this year. What a shit gm

He is a very bad GM. But remember, our bad ownership group selected him. We went from Lou (the 3 time cup winner) to Fitzgerald who is too afraid to fire Lindy Ruff (0 cups in 20+ years). No wonder this franchise has been screwed for so many years.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Fitz is just too unrealistic with his offers

What was his offer?

DeSimone for Markstrom

 

[A1LeafNation]

Schmid + 1st for Markstrom.

3rd party retention.

Done.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

Flames have all the leverage here.

Devils have a Cup caliber team everywhere but in goal. They must be desperate to try to correct the problem and get some shots at winning the Cup.

Sure, they have a young core and a wide window, but winning a Cup is damn hard in a 32 team league. You should want to utilize every year of that window to the best of your ability.

 

[racamdim]

"It's really difficult to do and it stopped in it's tracks"

Wonder which side leaked that for leverage.

 

[Lunatik]

retention seems unnecessary. just trade vanecek to calgary in the deal, and flip vladar elsewhere. there's your retention. flames will need a reasonable vet goalie with wolf anyway.

Vladar has reportedly been available since Conroy took over as GM and they haven't found a suitor for Vladar, so it's not as easy as you make it sound. I think he may be bought out this summer.

Another factor that no one is discussing is optics. We're 1 point out of a playoff spot, trading Markstrom would be terrible optics to the guys in the room. This isn't like Hanifin or Tanev where it's move them now or get nothing, as Markstrom is still under contract for 2 more seasons. So if I were Conroy, I'd want more than normal.

 

[dirtydanglez]

Wonder which side leaked that for leverage.

calgary has all the leverage now. nj slipping farther out of the playoffs and there is a high demand for goalies.

 

[CraigsList]

Based on the current dog race in the standings, would imagine NJ just wait until the off-season.

 

[BHD]

Offseason move.

 

[Vitto79]

I imagine NJ wants them to take Vanacek
I’d Palat tradeable ? No trade

Schmid + 1st for Markstrom.

3rd party retention.

Done.

Calgary doesn’t need a G with Wolf and they are likeky stuck with Vladar
No one even wants to pay 2 million for a bubble Backup without taking a pick Back with him

 

[Rpenny]

Flames have all the leverage here.

Devils have a Cup caliber team everywhere but in goal. They must be desperate to try to correct the problem and get some shots at winning the Cup.

Sure, they have a young core and a wide window, but winning a Cup is damn hard in a 32 team league. You should want to utilize every year of that window to the best of your ability.

Marky has a full NMC--so he has some say where he goes