Speculation: Sharks Roster Discussion Part VI

[one2gamble]

I mean, sure... but really, even if we got one of them, none of those guys solve any real problems. We need a new #1c, none of those guys are anywhere close. They don't even solve the speed/youth issue, they help some, but we would still have a ways to go.

Not saying some progress is no progress, but in a sense it is. If we continue to linger in 'good, but not great' what's the point? You either need a generational talent (Crosby) or you need a young star player on an ELC to give you a salary advantage. We don't have either now (or any in the system). We need those really high talent guys on ELC's, and we need them at the right time (depth). It's a balancing act and I think Wilson has been operating on the idea that he keeps the team well stocked and hopes something falls into his lap to push it over the top. He figures, if he can stay there long enough, eventually it will happen.

It's not going to happen, either he doesn't have the wherewithall or it's just a bad strategy all-together. If you can't put together a cup team in 12 years of being a really good team, something isn't working. I think the Sharks need to part ways with Wilson, with Burke, with Sommer, and start fresh with a new group and build through the draft. There is nothing worse than stagnation in a sport, fan's will evaporate and never come back.

The problem is it already fell in his lap and he did dick all with ir

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Did Tierney need to re-sign by today? Or is he filing for arbitration?

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Did Tierney need to re-sign by today? Or is he filing for arbitration?

Sharks don't have any players going to arb.

 

[Sysreq]

Sharks don't have any players good enough to arb.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Sharks don't have any players going to arb.

So if Tierney is an RFA and has not re-signed yet, how does it work? I thought that if RFA's were not signed they got to arbitration?

 

[Alaskanice]

So if Tierney is an RFA and has not re-signed yet, how does it work? I thought that if RFA's were not signed they got to arbitration?

He's probably already signed. True to the Sharks, it'll be announced at a later date.

 

[sirom]

He is an RFA with no arbitration rights given first year out of ELC and his age. CAPfriendly is a great website that has all this information

 

[Barrie22]

I would laugh if wilson protected tierney in the expansion draft and then he proceeds to hold out for half the year.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Fixed that for you.

 

[hockfan1991]

I have to admit. I have been wanting to put a padlock on Doug Wilson's tanning bed and turn the heat up and called it a day. But he may have something up his sleeve I hope he does.

I would like to think he said he was going to make improvements to keep Joe around. That's what I'm hoping for.

If not what it really comes down to. Signing him was an attempt to not lose the whole fan base. To lose Patti and Joe in the same off-season would be horrendous. My concern is that he's keeping around just not to lose more faces of the franchise and lose the Fanbase. And we are going to continue or downward slope.

I'll wait till September but it ain't looking good

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Joe is still a great player. Keeping him makes this team better.

 

[The Nemesis]

So if Tierney is an RFA and has not re-signed yet, how does it work? I thought that if RFA's were not signed they got to arbitration?

He would just remain an RFA for as long as he remains unsigned unless the Sharks were to renounce his RFA rights.

Arbitration (if he was eligible) is only done if one party elects it. But today was the deadline for player-elected arb and tomorrow is the deadline for team-elected arb). It's not likely to happen with either of the team's arb-eligible players (Sorensen and Goodrow)

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Patrick Marleau made a decision for himself. The Sharks offered him a deal. The Leafs offered more. **** happens.

 

[SactoShark]

Patrick Marleau made a decision for himself. The Sharks offered him a deal. The Leafs offered more. **** happens.

Marleau has always had an exceptional hockey IQ.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Marleau has always had an exceptional hockey IQ.

Okay, I laughed.

 

[hohosaregood]

Patty's wife and her accounting knowledge probably made the final say.

hmm i accidentally found their wedding video online.

 

[Barrie22]

Joe is still a great player. Keeping him makes this team better.

It does, but this is not 2005 thornton that can put the team solely on his back and lead them to the playoffs he needs help and as of right now bollig is not enough.

 

[Lebanezer]

Patty's wife and her accounting knowledge probably made the final say.

hmm i accidentally found their wedding video online.

Seriously??

 

[hohosaregood]

Seriously??

Yup, I guess I'll link to it later. From what I saw in the first 30 seconds, Patty proposed while playing monopoly.

 

[Led Zappa]

Patty's wife and her accounting knowledge probably made the final say.

hmm i accidentally found their wedding video online.

I always heard around here that Patty would never leave the west because of his wife.

I guess everyone has their price

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

I always heard around here that Patty would never leave the west because of his wife.

I guess everyone has their price

LOL.

Joking aside though, I am definitely surprised that Patty is gone. Never got official word on our offer to him but if it was indeed 2 years, then him choosing Toronto over SJ is baffling given how long he has lived here. Just for one extra year? Or a million more a year?

I wonder if there was something else going beyond the scenes that made him choose the Leafs. Maybe he just wanted a change in environment and wanted to go to any other team that gave him the best term/offer.

 

[Barrie22]

LOL.

Joking aside though, I am definitely surprised that Patty is gone. Never got official word on our offer to him but if it was indeed 2 years, then him choosing Toronto over SJ is baffling given how long he has lived here. Just for one extra year? Or a million more a year?

I wonder if there was something else going beyond the scenes that made him choose the Leafs. Maybe he just wanted a change in environment and wanted to go to any other team that gave him the best term/offer.

It was 1 more year but 8 mil more total.

Marleaus 1st year of 8.25 mil comes in at just under 2 mil less then what the sharks supposedly offered.

Even if you have 200 million in the bank. Turning down 8 million would be hard to do.

 

[DrFeelgood]

LOL.

Joking aside though, I am definitely surprised that Patty is gone. Never got official word on our offer to him but if it was indeed 2 years, then him choosing Toronto over SJ is baffling given how long he has lived here. Just for one extra year? Or a million more a year?

I wonder if there was something else going beyond the scenes that made him choose the Leafs. Maybe he just wanted a change in environment and wanted to go to any other team that gave him the best term/offer.

According to LeBrun our offer was 2 years 10 million

 

[hohosaregood]

That 3rd year probably means a lot for an old man. But man, that 3rd year could mean that his kids grow up to be Leafs fans...ugh gross.

 

[Barrie22]

That 3rd year probably means a lot for an old man. But man, that 3rd year could mean that his kids grow up to be Leafs fans...ugh gross.

Wasn't his youngest already a fan of another team?