Prospect Info: Sharks Prospect Info/Discussion Thread XIII

[Fistfullofbeer]

Shark alum Jim Montgomery is Gabrell's coach, so he can speak first hand to Sharks organization experience.

A number of guys have "jumped" to pro (before 4 years/graduation) for Sharks yet "gone back" to finish their degree (summers and correspondence classes).

Hmmmm.

I guess that is always a possibility. If the intention is purely to finish college he could sign the contract with the Sharks and finish his degree outside of standard college classes. The general consensus does seem to be that he has nothing left to learn from college hockey so maybe he does end up signing the contract.

 

[Mayo8898]

Friday
Chmelevski with an assist
Chekhovich with a goal
Halbgewachs with an assist
Blichfeld with a goal
Gregor with a goal
McGrew with an assist
Reedy with a goal and an assist
Vela with an assist
Gambrell with a goal and an assist
Jackson with an assist

 

[Mayo8898]

Saturday
Halbgewachs with a goal and an assist
Gregor with a goal
McGrew with an assist
Reedy with 2 goals and an assist
Vela with an assist
Norris with 2 assists
Gambrell with 2 assists

 

[Alaskanice]

Mayo,
I wanted to take a second and thank you for compiling this information for us all. Yes, I could take the time to look these stats up on town but I appreciate the ease of reading your posts.
Go Sharks!

 

[Sharksrule04]

Went to the UMass hockey east playoff game today. Ferraro had another very strong game. Scored the opening goal and assisted on the 2nd goal which ended up being the game winner. This is my 7th time seeing him this year and I am pretty convinced he will at a minimum make the NHL. I am becoming more and more convinced of him having upside of a #3 or #4 DMan though. He sees the play very well, possesses the puck well, plays a physical edge and his motor never stops. His skating is above average and his shot is solid. His size worries me a tiny bit but more and more undersized Dmen seem to be succeeding in the modern NHL. Ferraro plays bigger than a 5 foot 10 guy.

He now has 4 goals and 22 points in 35 games during his freshman season, pretty much level with Makar who he is paired with majority of the time.

I definitely think he needs 1-2 more years in college, but I would easily put him as our top DMan prospect due to Roy’s health issues.

UMass/Ferraro advanced to the 2nd round of the playoffs and will play a best of 3 series at Northeastern next weekend.

 

[Mayo8898]

Mayo,
I wanted to take a second and thank you for compiling this information for us all. Yes, I could take the time to look these stats up on town but I appreciate the ease of reading your posts.
Go Sharks!

Haha thank you I appreciate that you appreciate it

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Norris and Gambrell will both be in the tourney. Ferraro if they win their conference playoffs.

 

[OrrNumber4]

Went to the UMass hockey east playoff game today. Ferraro had another very strong game. Scored the opening goal and assisted on the 2nd goal which ended up being the game winner. This is my 7th time seeing him this year and I am pretty convinced he will at a minimum make the NHL. I am becoming more and more convinced of him having upside of a #3 or #4 DMan though. He sees the play very well, possesses the puck well, plays a physical edge and his motor never stops. His skating is above average and his shot is solid. His size worries me a tiny bit but more and more undersized Dmen seem to be succeeding in the modern NHL. Ferraro plays bigger than a 5 foot 10 guy.

He now has 4 goals and 22 points in 35 games during his freshman season, pretty much level with Makar who he is paired with majority of the time.

I definitely think he needs 1-2 more years in college, but I would easily put him as our top DMan prospect due to Roy’s health issues.

UMass/Ferraro advanced to the 2nd round of the playoffs and will play a best of 3 series at Northeastern next weekend.

That is good to hear and Ferraro's numbers are promising. But count how many top-4 NHL defensemen are under 6 feet....and the players who buck the trend tend to be prolific junior scorers who become primarily offensive defensemen. Hopefully, Ferraro can be one of that minority, but it is still a longshot.

 

[Kcoyote3]

That is good to hear and Ferraro's numbers are promising. But count how many top-4 NHL defensemen are under 6 feet....and the players who buck the trend tend to be prolific junior scorers who become primarily offensive defensemen. Hopefully, Ferraro can be one of that minority, but it is still a longshot.

Orlov and Barrie come to mind. Barrie did light up juniors, but Orlov was in the KHL.

 

[Mayo8898]

That is good to hear and Ferraro's numbers are promising. But count how many top-4 NHL defensemen are under 6 feet....and the players who buck the trend tend to be prolific junior scorers who become primarily offensive defensemen. Hopefully, Ferraro can be one of that minority, but it is still a longshot.

Ferraro just set the school record for most points by a freshman defenceman

 

[Mayo8898]

Ferraro with a goal and an assist
Chmelevski with 3 assists (6 shots)
Chekhovich with 2 goals and 2 assists

 

[OrrNumber4]

Orlov and Barrie come to mind. Barrie did light up juniors, but Orlov was in the KHL.

That's good. An NHL scout once told me that the junior production and draft-size weight (not height, but let's make the assumption that there is a decent causal correlation between the two) were some of the best indicators of long-term NHL success.

 

[hohosaregood]

There's quite a few. Anton Stralman, Torey Krug, Ryan Ellis, Tobias Enstrom, Jared Spurgeon, Samuel Girard, Tyson Barrie, Dmitri Orlov, Shayne Gostisbehere, Andy Greene, Sami Vatanen, Will Butcher, Joakim Ryan, Alex Goligoski, and Francois Beauchemin used to be a top 4, Not to mention that a lot of the premier defensemen in the league aren't exactly huge either like Subban and Giordano are only 6' and Doughty is 6'1". It's not like they're a majority or anything but there's quite a few and there's a huge shift in what skills matter for NHL defensemen.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Erik Karlsson, Ryan Ellis, Tobias Enstrom, Alex Goligoski (which is probably a pretty good comp body type wise for Ferraro)

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

Chekovich continuing to pad the stat sheet.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Chekovich continuing to pad the stat sheet.

He has seriously turned his game up a notch (atleast from a stats perspective) over the last few months. After a slow start he is almost up to a PPG.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Ferraro just set the school record for most points by a freshman defenceman

I am curious how he does without Makar. I don't follow college hockey as much but some people have commented that his production has a lot to do with Makar.

 

[Sharksrule04]

I am curious how he does without Makar. I don't follow college hockey as much but some people have commented that his production has a lot to do with Makar.

That is completely wrong. Makar is the more skilled player but Ferraro's production isn't padded much by Makar. He has outscored Makar (with a few extra games played) and for the most part performed at the same level. Makar has an extra level that Ferraro does not have but he hasn't used that extra gear to really dominate at the college level. Makar clearly has the higher upside, I could easily see him becoming a top pairing d-man and a PP QB, but at this point in their careers they're performing at a similar level. Makar and Ferraro have been paired together for much of the season but I'd say they compliment each other very well more so than either one of them is riding the other to better stats.

 

[Lebanezer]

He has seriously turned his game up a notch (atleast from a stats perspective) over the last few months. After a slow start he is almost up to a PPG.

He’s got 17 points in his last 7 games. Chmelevski is on an 8 game point streak with 14 points.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

That is completely wrong. Makar is the more skilled player but Ferraro's production isn't padded much by Makar. He has outscored Makar (with a few extra games played) and for the most part performed at the same level. Makar has an extra level that Ferraro does not have but he hasn't used that extra gear to really dominate at the college level. Makar clearly has the higher upside, I could easily see him becoming a top pairing d-man and a PP QB, but at this point in their careers they're performing at a similar level. Makar and Ferraro have been paired together for much of the season but I'd say they compliment each other very well more so than either one of them is riding the other to better stats.

That is very good to know.

 

[hohosaregood]

Makara was injured a couple weeks ago and Ferraro was putting up a lot of points without Makar.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Makara was injured a couple weeks ago and Ferraro was putting up a lot of points without Makar.

Nice! Ferraro playing so well as a freshman is a big positive.

 

[Patty Ice]

He’s got 17 points in his last 7 games. Chmelevski is on an 8 game point streak with 14 points.

I want these guys paired together as soon as possible so they can be dubbed C + C Scoring Factory.

 

[hohosaregood]

Nice! Ferraro playing so well as a freshman is a big positive.

Granted it was only like 4 points in 3 games so small sample size. Anyways, overall he's like 4 points in 5 games when Makar wasn't in the lineup. I've heard here and there that Umass isn't that great of a program but I haven't done a lot of research on that. I'm a bit split on whether or not Ferraro would be better off if Makar joins the Avs next season cuz if Makar leaves then Ferraro will probably get a huge boost in responsibilities but playing with a strong program will other good players would also be good too.

 

[Juxtaposer]

That's good. An NHL scout once told me that the junior production and draft-size weight (not height, but let's make the assumption that there is a decent causal correlation between the two) were some of the best indicators of long-term NHL success.

I recall reading something that indicated that statistically draft weight was a better predictor of success than draft height.