it tells you at least as much as a sample of 1 player transitioning 1 time, at a time when players typically go through their largest spurt of growth (in terms of players performance/development).
Joel Armia scored 33 points in 47 games int he Fel. he then scored 27 points in 54 AHL games.
Teravainen scored less in the AHL then he did the year prior in the Fel.
Pokka scored less in the Ahl then he did the year prior in the FEL.
Esa Lindell scored less in the Ahl then he did the year prior in the FEL.
Mikko Vainonen score almost identically in the FEL as he did in the ECHL.
NHLE may not be a great barometer. Guess what? Neither is Miko Raantanen.
I have already explained why the OHL example is invalid. As for NLA? I honestly have no idea. Maybe it is a better league? Maybe it isn't?
I also don't see any chance AHL winner would win FEL winner in 7 game matchup.
The odds definitely would be in FEL side.
As for NLA? I honestly have no idea. Maybe it is a better league? Maybe it isn't?
it tells you at least as much as a sample of 1 player transitioning 1 time, at a time when players typically go through their largest spurt of growth (in terms of players performance/development).
Joel Armia scored 33 points in 47 games int he Fel. he then scored 27 points in 54 AHL games.
Teravainen scored less in the AHL then he did the year prior in the Fel.
Pokka scored less in the Ahl then he did the year prior in the FEL.
Esa Lindell scored less in the Ahl then he did the year prior in the FEL.
Mikko Vainonen score almost identically in the FEL as he did in the ECHL.
NHLE may not be a great barometer. Guess what? Neither is Miko Raantanen.
I have already explained why the OHL example is invalid. As for NLA? I honestly have no idea. Maybe it is a better league? Maybe it isn't?
it tells you at least as much as a sample of 1 player transitioning 1 time, at a time when players typically go through their largest spurt of growth (in terms of players performance/development).
Joel Armia scored 33 points in 47 games int he Fel. he then scored 27 points in 54 AHL games.
Teravainen scored less in the AHL then he did the year prior in the Fel.
Pokka scored less in the Ahl then he did the year prior in the FEL.
Esa Lindell scored less in the Ahl then he did the year prior in the FEL.
Mikko Vainonen score almost identically in the FEL as he did in the ECHL.
NHLE may not be a great barometer. Guess what? Neither is Miko Raantanen.
I have already explained why the OHL example is invalid. As for NLA? I honestly have no idea. Maybe it is a better league? Maybe it isn't?
Nylander was killing the SHL before switching, Rantanen played I think 1 AHL game at 18, he's been 19 for almost all his games. I do fully expect the Laine or Pjulu to break the conversion rate, for multiple reasons. First they will be a year older. Secondly, the AHL is a developmental league they are practically guaranteed 1st line minutes regardless if an older player is more suited to help a team win, that is not as true in Liiga, as the teams will lose them before they develop. Kapanen who has had an up and down start, while not getting top line minutes due to leafs abundance of young wingers (Sosh, Hyman, Brown) has not seen a massive jump in numbers from Liiga to AHL despite becoming a year older (21 in 41 last year, 25 in 41 at the AHL level). Fiala's mid year switch stayed in line, and he progressed the next year, Kempe's aren't out of line either.None of these guys were Pulju/Laine level prospects so I wouldn't look at these to guess how they could do next year, they are also completely different players.
Let's look at prospects who left to AHL right away after their draft, the new waive Euro top prospects,
to get a better feeling about their potential next year.
Pasta, 0 games at SHL, 24 points in 36 Allsvenskan games, +1year 28 points in 25 AHL game while being the youngest player in the entire league, 27 points in 46 NHL games while being the youngest player in the entire league.
Nylander, 7 points in 22 SHL games, +1year 32 points in 37 games in the AHL.
Mikko Rantanen, 28 points in 56 Liiga games, +1year 56 points in 47 AHL games.
Julius Honka(D-prospect), 56 points in 62 WHL games, +1year, 31 points in 68 AHL games.
All these were 18y at the start of their AHL career, all of them outside of Rantanen were small, light players.
Does anyone know if pulju or Laine will be playing in the world championships?
Pulju wont be on the team, thats pretty sure atm but Laine has really good chance.
Depends a bit what kind winger they get for the team but headcoach is in love with Laine so that ups his possibility. 3rd line + 1st pp is what believe his wc role is.
Nylander was killing the SHL before switching, Rantanen played I think 1 AHL game at 18, he's been 19 for almost all his games. I do fully expect the Laine or Pjulu to break the conversion rate, for multiple reasons. First they will be a year older. Secondly, the AHL is a developmental league they are practically guaranteed 1st line minutes regardless if an older player is more suited to help a team win, that is not as true in Liiga, as the teams will lose them before they develop. Kapanen who has had an up and down start, while not getting top line minutes due to leafs abundance of young wingers (Sosh, Hyman, Brown) has not seen a massive jump in numbers from Liiga to AHL despite becoming a year older (21 in 41 last year, 25 in 41 at the AHL level). Fiala's mid year switch stayed in line, and he progressed the next year, Kempe's aren't out of line either.
Remember these equivalencies make no attempt for future growth, and I actually think they are worse for the NCAA than any other league. They do run into problems when used in projection, when lumped in with NA leagues.
If you didn't know in Europe we have Champions Hockey League where all the best non KHL-teams play against each other.
None of these 3 guys (paholaine) are better than Donskoi last year nor ready to play in NHL. All of them will have good career in NHL but it will take time.
Aho will need lot of strenght, Laine needs acceleration and Pulju needs more ice time to gain experience. Aho might steal a spot for CAR but others should stay one more year in Finland or go to AHL
Nylander was killing the SHL before switching
Hmmm, I have to say that I disagree with Aho here. Just looking at his stats shows that he has been even better than Donskoi was last season. Regular season: Aho 45 points in 45 games, Donskoi 49 points in 58 games. Better PPG for Aho. In the playoffs: Aho so far 12 points in 9 games, Donskoi 22 points in 19 games. Better PPG again for Aho.
It's also good to remember that Donskoi was playing almost the whole season with Junttila and Kemppainen, whom he had very good chemistry with. Aho's linemates have changed much more, but still he has been able to produce better.
I definitely see that Laine and Pulju are not as NHL ready as Aho, and they definitely are not better than Donskoi - yet. But from Aho I do expect quite similar or even slightly better point totals than Donskoi has had this season, if Aho will play a full season in the NHL.
No, he wasn't. Nylander has yet to be seen as a "star" here in Sweden.
Puljujarvi. Laine just doesn't have the skating ability to challenge Puljujarvi and Matthews who compete for the 1st overall. Skating is so so important in the NHL. I don't think everyone here understands it. Laine is great player though as i said.