Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXIX - I Won’t Back Down

[mas0764]

I do think being blocked matters. You essentially have a depreciating asset. It doesn't mean I think any less of them, but if they aren't going to make an impact on your roster, they should be used to upgrade holes, preferably for pieces that fit into the picture longer term.

I'm with you though, I think a piece like Lundkvist should only move if it means a long term 2C is coming back. Othmann + Schneider shouldn't go anywhere. Neither should Miller.

If you trade a depreciating asset for a rental, then as soon as the season is over, the asset has depreciated to zero.

Trade assets for long term pieces. Rentals are dumb.

 

[Savant]

We had to attach that pick for someone to take him with that contract.

But they didn’t HAVE to move him at all. It was a terrible move in hindsight

 

[mas0764]

Other teams seem to get good centers out of nowhere. St.Louis with Kyrou and Thomas. NJ has Mercer too now. Wyatt Johnson looks to be an elite prospect for the Stars. None were high picks.

So let’s get more mid first round picks.

 

[mas0764]

There absolutely is going to be a time when the Rangers make a huge splash and bring in a player that puts them over the top for good. It's the Rangers MO as it always has been and most championship teams do this at some point And I'm not talking about a deadline acquisition because 9/10 those end up not being the difference for a team winning or losing.

There are going to be very good players that become available for a lot of different reasons in the near future - cap, team directions, trade requests, whatever. The Rangers need to make sure they have their most easily tradeable high valued assets available for when that player or players materializes.

There will be another Eichel at some point.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

But they didn’t HAVE to move him at all. It was a terrible move in hindsight

You know we had to. He was an anchor on our defense and that contract was horrendous. We desperately needed the capspace especially bc of all the buyouts prior.

 

[Daves a mess]

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[Daves a mess]

We are getting Globetrotted...

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[Savant]

You know we had to. He was an anchor on our defense and that contract was horrendous. We desperately needed the capspace especially bc of all the buyouts prior.

The contract was no longer horrendous, and they didn’t do anything with the cap space. They replaced him with Jack Johnson. It was a terrible trade

 

[Lion Hound]

They punch them once and when they realize the guy is being restrained, they stop. You know that.

the code

 

[bobbop]

TBH I'd prefer Karlsson over Gourde.

Karlsson has more depth to his game IMO and has been outperforming Gourde in Playoff scenarios

The cap makes Karlsson nearly impossible.

 

[bobbop]

What was the name of your favorite teacher in school?

Straight man?

 

[bobbop]

Barron being showcased?

Perhaps

 

[bobbop]

So since Nemeth rejoined the lineup, he has been playing pretty well. I'm thinking that he may convince the Rangers they don't need to trade for another defenseman.

 

[jay from jersey]

So since Nemeth rejoined the lineup, he has been playing pretty well. I'm thinking that he may convince the Rangers they don't need to trade for another defenseman.

Agreed.... I think GG will be fine with Nemeth/Jones platooning for the 6 D spot.

nemeth likely gets the nod first being a vet and since our D overall is very young.

hajek I guess would be available in an emergency should that arise

 

[Paulie Walnutz]

So since Nemeth rejoined the lineup, he has been playing pretty well. I'm thinking that he may convince the Rangers they don't need to trade for another defenseman.

I agree, Nemeth has been real solid since his return and has even brought a little edge to his game that wasn’t there before.

 

[Rangers in 7]

Colorado checking in on Patrick Kane…..with what cap space? Lol

 

[rangers1314]

Colorado checking in on Patrick Kane…..with what cap space? Lol

I mean it’s galaxy brain stuff, but you move Compher and Jost…and if Chicago retains half, maybe?

Chicago would have to believe that Byram isn’t damaged goods.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Didn’t the pens win a Cup with kessel on the third line?

for me he’s a no brainer for that cheap. I’d put him there. He may be a plan like C if Miller doesn’t happen

The HBK line. Man, they had so much depth, it was really no surprise they won back-to-back cups.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Get Kakko back in a couple weeks and give me Lehkonen. No giving up of top picks or prospects for rentals.

Kreider-Mika-Laf
Panarin-Strome-Kakko
Goodrow-Chytil-Lehkonen
Hunt-Rooney-Reaves

Thats a good forward group.

 

[aufheben]

The HBK line. Man, they had so much depth, it was really no surprise they won back-to-back cups.

Shit was crazy. Nick f***ing Bonino tied Malkin in points during the 1st run. Then they pulled off a repeat without Kris Letang playing a single game.

Like…what.

 

[Rangers in 7]

I mean it’s galaxy brain stuff, but you move Compher and Jost…and if Chicago retains half, maybe?

Chicago would have to believe that Byram isn’t damaged goods.

I mean if I’m Chicago I want a haul, I’d be surprised if Colorado paid that price though

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Shit was crazy. Nick f***ing Bonino tied Malkin in points during the 1st run. Then they pulled off a repeat without Kris Letang playing a single game.

Like…what.

And Matt f***ing Murray in net.

Murray was in a postion where he was Calder eligible AFTER winning 2 cups.

 

[aufheben]

And Matt f***ing Murray in net

The craziest part of all I think was Marc-Andre Fleury providing .924 SV% for half a playoff run.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

The craziest part of all I think was Marc-Andre Fleury providing .924 SV% for half a playoff run.

And Kessel being robbed of a Conn Smythe simply because of the Crosby-factor.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

If you trade a depreciating asset for a rental, then as soon as the season is over, the asset has depreciated to zero.

Trade assets for long term pieces. Rentals are dumb.

^This^

The only exception is for heavy powerhouse teams that are favored to go far in the playoffs. Those rentals joining the team are driven to help win the cup like a missing piece of an incomplete puzzle.
It seems to never work out when the players are brought in as the lynchpin. Don’t have to go to far for proof of this. Just look at Sather’s years here and all the players he brought in on expiring contracts who couldn’t wait for the team to get eliminated so the could get back to their families and home. Very little incentive.