Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part XIV: There ain't no gettin' off of this train we're on

haveandare · Mar 23, 2018

I have no interest in Hamonic at all. Very interested in Trouba but I doubt we could get him without overpaying. Could be worth it depending on the size of the overpayment - he and Skjei could be a nice pair of guys to build around for a number of years.

Thirty One · Mar 23, 2018

I couldn't imagine passing up a center prospect that we felt was the best player because of positional strength. What's the worry? You won't be able to find a team that will trade a good young winger for a good young center? Has that ever been the case?

silverfish · Mar 23, 2018

never mind

Lindberg Cheese · Mar 23, 2018

LeetchisGod said:
Love the Patrice avatar. Favorite comedian of all time. RIP.

The best was when they all did Wesley Snipes in prison to Shawshank. it’s animated on YouTube, opie and Anthony, Wesley snipes

rangers1314 · Mar 23, 2018

Lindberg Cheese said:
The best was when they all did Wesley Snipes in prison to Shawshank. it’s animated on YouTube, opie and Anthony, Wesley snipes

Roo Returns · Mar 23, 2018

ericmgomes said:
Possibly Bouchard, Rykov, Hajek, Lindgren collectively in the next few years. It's exciting to witness. I would also include and be willing to part ways with Zuccarello + 1st 2018 to start for a real top pairing D. I know we need help offensively too, but the defense is an absolute nightmare. Skjei, Shattenkirk, Pionk I'm all sold on going forward. ADA is really perplexing to me anyway, can't tell what kind of game he brings and that to me signifies inconsistency. Granted he is only 22 on quite possibly the most disorderly team in the NHL, but I am really impressed with how Pionk has played.

I think during this rebuild guys like Shattenkirk and ADA are fine, but I just don't see either as long term answers when the Rangers are ready to be a very competitive team again. They're stockpiling all these D now which is great but remember, the last rebuild there was a time when Roszival and Malik were the first pair and there was a six year period when names like Tyutin, Kondratiev, Potter, Baranka, Liffiton, and Gilroy were around before Staal/Girardi/McD became the top three. This doesn't mean that can't be a playoff team, it just means don't expect all of Hajek/Lindgren and who ever they draft this year with a late first round pick (K. Miller? Woo? Samuelson? Lundkvist?) to automatically start challenging Harry Howell's games played record.

bl02 · Mar 23, 2018

LeetchisGod said:
Love the Patrice avatar. Favorite comedian of all time. RIP.

Holy Shit just noticed his avatar. Im ashamed. Patrice was my favorite comedian of all time as well. Him and Bernie Mac. Got to see neither before they died. so sad we lost two amazing talents like that so early. Sounds selfish but I so regret never making better effort to see them live before their passing.

LeetchisGod · Mar 23, 2018

bl02 said:
Holy **** just noticed his avatar. Im ashamed. Patrice was my favorite comedian of all time as well. Him and Bernie Mac. Got to see neither before they died. so sad we lost two amazing talents like that so early. Sounds selfish but I so regret never making better effort to see them live before their passing.

Same here. Had a chance to see Patrice when I lived in Chicago but it was dead of winter so I punked out. I'm a fool.

LeetchisGod · Mar 23, 2018

rangers1314 said:

Hadn't heard this before. Thanks for posting.

GregSirico · Mar 23, 2018

If you can fit Tavares on this team, resign your RFA's, move Staal's money, and draft well. How do you all feel about that off season?

rangers1314 · Mar 23, 2018

LeetchisGod said:
Hadn't heard this before. Thanks for posting.

Very welcome. All of Patrices appearances on O&A are available on youtube, highly recommend them if you've got a job that has you at a desk all day. A lot of them feature other stands up in studio as well (Bill Burr, Robert Kelly, Rich Vos, Colin Quinn and obviously Jim Norton). Just hours of them trashing each other. Incredible.

Patrice was without a doubt the funniest person I've ever heard speak, just conversationally he was the funniest person ever in my opinion. He was as insightful as he was funny. The only one that comes close is Joey Diaz.

rangers1314 · Mar 23, 2018

LeetchisGod said:
Same here. Had a chance to see Patrice when I lived in Chicago but it was dead of winter so I punked out. I'm a fool.

I saw him a few times. His stand up was obviously incredible, but he was truly at his best in conversation. That's what makes his O&A appearances so great.

I go to his benefit show every year. Bill Burr runs it. Lineup is always tremendous, great stories.

bl02 · Mar 23, 2018

rangers1314 said:
I saw him a few times. His stand up was obviously incredible, but he was truly at his best in conversation. That's what makes his O&A appearances so great.

I go to his benefit show every year. Bill Burr runs it. Lineup is always tremendous, great stories.

Totally agree. every talk show (even comedy roasts) IMO he killed it. I appreciate that ability of the elite comics to be able to have those convo skills.

rangers1314 · Mar 23, 2018

bl02 said:
Totally agree. every talk show (even comedy roasts) IMO he killed it. I appreciate that ability of the elite comics to be able to have those convo skills.

It's amazing how being able to write funny material and just "being funny" in general are two totally different worlds. There are plenty of stand up's/comedy writers who are total duds when you get them on radio shows and podcasts.

DanielBrassard · Mar 23, 2018

Thirty One said:
I couldn't imagine passing up a center prospect that we felt was the best player because of positional strength. What's the worry? You won't be able to find a team that will trade a good young winger for a good young center? Has that ever been the case?

Would be utterly idiotic.

TheTakedown · Mar 23, 2018

Alluckks said:
Vlad is light, but Hayes contract is fine. Vlad won't get more than 4 per year. Zib just got 5.35 for 5 and produces much more than Hayes.

EDM trade is not that lopsided, Pionk has very good value, and Spooner is under control and can be expected to give 45+ points. Carolina trade isn't bad at all if they see Marc Staal at neutral value rather than negative.

Not to mention Carolina does it based on the fact that they are desperate for goaltending. The Scott Darling experiment did not work

wafflepadsave · Mar 23, 2018

GregSirico said:
If you can fit Tavares on this team, resign your RFA's, move Staal's money, and draft well. How do you all feel about that off season?

The only good thing about Tavares being on the team is that everyone else moves down a slot so there is someone else to trade for more prospects or picks.

Thirty One · Mar 23, 2018

wafflepadsave said:
The only good thing about Tavares being on the team is that everyone else moves down a slot so there is someone else to trade for more prospects or picks.

That would be the only good thing?

YoSoyLalo · Mar 23, 2018

No interest in giving Tavares the term and cap he will demand.

Would much rather roll the dice on one of EK or Doughty hitting the UFA market.

Lindberg Cheese · Mar 23, 2018

rangers1314 said:
Very welcome. All of Patrices appearances on O&A are available on youtube, highly recommend them if you've got a job that has you at a desk all day. A lot of them feature other stands up in studio as well (Bill Burr, Robert Kelly, Rich Vos, Colin Quinn and obviously Jim Norton). Just hours of them trashing each other. Incredible.

Patrice was without a doubt the funniest person I've ever heard speak, just conversationally he was the funniest person ever in my opinion. He was as insightful as he was funny. The only one that comes close is Joey Diaz.

Yeah he ruled, Bill Burrs famous Philly concert dans up there too. I think it’s out there but audio stinks. Talking about how they have a statue to a fake boxer while Joe Frazier comes from there. Never saw him live but saw Norton a couple times and shocked my wife loved him despite all of the ear muffs I threw on her.

GregSirico · Mar 23, 2018

wafflepadsave said:
The only good thing about Tavares being on the team is that everyone else moves down a slot so there is someone else to trade for more prospects or picks.

I think you are underestimating how good Tavares is.

Edge · Mar 23, 2018

Thirty One said:
I couldn't imagine passing up a center prospect that we felt was the best player because of positional strength. What's the worry? You won't be able to find a team that will trade a good young winger for a good young center? Has that ever been the case?

It's ironic (fortunate?) that the general consensus seems to be that this isn't necessarily a clear-cut, banner draft crop for centers.

You have to think there's arguably a 90+ percent chance that the Rangers come away from the first round of the draft, with some combination (draft pick or otherwise) of promising defensemen and/or wings.

GregSirico · Mar 23, 2018

Bozle said:
No interest in giving Tavares the term and cap he will demand.

Would much rather roll the dice on one of EK or Doughty hitting the UFA market.

I think JT would provide a bigger impact on this team than either of them would. As bad as our D is.

YoSoyLalo · Mar 23, 2018

GregSirico said:
I think JT would provide a bigger impact on this team than either of them would. As bad as our D is.

You're overrating the hell out of Tavares.

GregSirico · Mar 23, 2018

Bozle said:
You're overrating the hell out of Tavares.

Yeah because point per game players grow on trees.

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