Prospect and Marlies Thread: 2017 - 2018 (continued)

[stickty111]

But no legit Prospects, depth but not quality just quantities, of small replicas, not an Ehlers or Jack Hockey's in the bunch. Not a prospect in the CHL, College, and just a bunch of Smurfs on the Marlies. Europe another Russian winger who can't even make the B squad for his country.

I agree. Habs prospect pool is horrendous.
Shouldnt you be posting this in the Habs board?

 

[Barilko14]

But no legit Prospects, depth but not quality just quantities, of small replicas, not an Ehlers or Jack Hockey's in the bunch. Not a prospect in the CHL, College, and just a bunch of Smurfs on the Marlies. Europe another Russian winger who can't even make the B squad for his country.

No legit prospects?? What do you consider Liljegren, Kappy and Dermott??

Also Young Leafs lead the pack in Core Four Under-24 ranking - Article - TSN

We have one of if not the best young cores in the league.

 

[X66]

But no legit Prospects, depth but not quality just quantities, of small replicas, not an Ehlers or Jack Hockey's in the bunch. Not a prospect in the CHL, College, and just a bunch of Smurfs on the Marlies. Europe another Russian winger who can't even make the B squad for his country.

What is a 'legit prospect'?

The reason that there are no Ehler's or "Jack Hockey's" is because those players make your rosters and don't really stay in the minors/junior long, we've seen it already with a few of our own players (Nylander/Marner/Matthews).

You're just not well versed in this topic, which isn't your fault, it's just not for everyone.

 

[FreeBird]

I’m not sure where you’re going with this though, the Marlies have a good team that’s being driven by young guys who’ll likely end up in the NHL. Looks like depth to me

Just a bunch of Suspects who've proven nothing at this juncture,

 

[FreeBird]

No legit prospects?? What do you consider Liljegren, Kappy and Dermott??

Also Young Leafs lead the pack in Core Four Under-24 ranking - Article - TSN

We have one of if not the best young cores in the league.

So you want to believe, the stats say differently, not a Barzal or Ehlers amongst them.

 

[Barilko14]

So you want to believe, the stats say differently, not a Barzal or Ehlers amongst them.

Because our Barzal and Ehlers are playing in the NHL?

Do you not know any prospects picked in the last 2 drafts for your examples?

You don't have to answer that. I already know.

 

[Menzinger]

Just a bunch of Suspects who've proven nothing at this juncture,

Sure, but you could say the same about any prospect pool. That doesn't mean they cant become impact NHLers when given the opportunity next season

 

[SeaOfBlue]

The Marlies have a handful of guys who are worth a shot in the NHL right now. Not really a bad thing the Leafs have so much depth that they can't be there right now.
Leafs pool mostly needs younger guys. Many of the guys we have are 98's or older, and there are not even that many 98's.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Just a bunch of Suspects who've proven nothing at this juncture,

As opposed to other pools with proven NHL talent?

 

[SprDaVE]

FreeBird is just trolling guys. He's been doing it for years and people still fall for it. I wouldn't worry too much about what he has to say.

 

[DarkKnight]

Just a bunch of Suspects who've proven nothing at this juncture,

Isn't that the definition of a prospect? Hello.

 

[Mr Hockey]

Scouting Jeremy Bracco, Timothy Liljegren, and the Toronto Marlies

 

[SprDaVE]

Scouting Jeremy Bracco, Timothy Liljegren, and the Toronto Marlies

Good write up. I keep forgetting Timashov but he's been quite the player as well. I'm not sure where he'd fit onto the Leafs though with our current setup going into next season.

I've always wondered if he might be traded to a rebuilding team that might need an interesting prospect to try and develop.

 

[Mr Hockey]

Next season will be interesting with the below 4 becoming UFA's.

• JVR
• Bozak
• Leo
• Moore

 

[darrylsittler27]

Moore is replaced by Alto and Gauthier. Soshkinov has to play ---> Komorov's spot. Bozak will walk to Pitts saying , " I got sick of the trade rumours!"

JVR will be traded before TD.

 

[FreeBird]

No legit prospects?? What do you consider Liljegren, Kappy and Dermott??

Also Young Leafs lead the pack in Core Four Under-24 ranking - Article - TSN

We have one of if not the best young cores in the league.

Wouldn't be surprised if their all gone by the deadline, as desperate Lou and Babs have the Cup dangling in their heads. Do we have the depth to over come the loss of Matthews. The Plan has fallen off the cliff.

 

[Boutette]

Next season will be interesting with the below 4 becoming UFA's.

• JVR
• Bozak
• Leo
• Moore

We do have lots of potential replacements who will be fighting over these positions, plus 1 year to plug in one or two higher cost UFAs if needed as we'll probably have about $15+- million free to plug in a UFA or two (a Joe Thorton maybe, to fit in beside Marleau) before the Marner/Matthews contracts kick in for 2019/2020.

JVR - potentially Lievo, Rychel, Marchment, Engvall and Korshkov are prospects who replace JVRs size while adding better 2-way play admittedly with less offense.
Bozak - This is where we are thin, although Altonnen and Nylander could replace his sheltered offense while providing better 2-way play.
Leo - Soshnikov, Johnnson, Kappanen and Grundstrom are potential replacements here.
Moore - given how cheap he is and how thin we are at center, it might be worthwhile to keep him another year while easing Gauthier into his slot.

 

[Myopic]

I have not followed the Marlies this year. How has Dermott looked? I had him pegged as a top 4 d-Man when I saw him in junior. He was a smart 2 way player with good speed and toughness. & He's very solidly built for a guy only 6'.
How has Liligren looked?

I'm hoping that Dermott & Liligren are the Marlies top pairing d-men.

 

[Menzinger]

I suspect it’s going to be a lot easier to replace those UFAs than some suspect. The only noticeable difficulty may be JVRs offense.

Scouting Jeremy Bracco, Timothy Liljegren, and the Toronto Marlies

Good analysis. Bracco is going to be fun to track over this season and next - especially as he forms chemistry with the other young guys.

 

[Myopic]

I suspect it’s going to be a lot easier to replace those UFAs than some suspect. The only noticeable difficulty may be JVRs offense.



Good analysis. Bracco is going to be fun to track over this season and next - especially as he forms chemistry with the other young guys.

Bracco, if he is a true center, would seem to be the perfect replacement for Bozak. My guesss is he is still 2 years away unfortunately and Bozy will be gone next year.

I suspect it’s going to be a lot easier to replace those UFAs than some suspect. The only noticeable difficulty may be JVRs offense.



Good analysis. Bracco is going to be fun to track over this season and next - especially as he forms chemistry with the other young guys.

Bracco has 5 points in his last 6 games after a very slow start. With young prospects, you want to see an uptick in progress as the season winds down. Let's hope he gets better and better. I also hope that he adds another 15 pounds over the next 2 years. He's currently listed at 171 pounds although you can never trust those numbers. 171 could be a pumped up stat.
TheAHL.com

 

[stickty111]

Bracco, if he is a true center, would seem to be the perfect replacement for Bozak. My guesss is he is still 2 years away unfortunately and Bozy will be gone next year.


Bracco has 5 points in his last 6 games after a very slow start. With young prospects, you want to see an uptick in progress as the season winds down. Let's hope he gets better and better. I also hope that he adds another 15 pounds over the next 2 years. He's currently listed at 171 pounds although you can never trust those numbers. 171 could be a pumped up stat.
TheAHL.com

Keefe has also mentioned that Bracco has improved so much in the details of the game. He has been really good do far

 

[Mr Hockey]

I suspect it’s going to be a lot easier to replace those UFAs than some suspect. The only noticeable difficulty may be JVRs offense.

Good analysis. Bracco is going to be fun to track over this season and next - especially as he forms chemistry with the other young guys.

That goal Bracco scored has renewed my interest in him lol

 

[FreeBird]

Isn't that the definition of a prospect? Hello.

It's he hasn't done it yet, still in the suspect cate

Because our Barzal and Ehlers are playing in the NHL?

But not nearly as well, Barzal is worth more because he's a Centre, you only have to watch the last two games with out Matthews to see that.

Do you not know any prospects picked in the last 2 drafts for your examples?

You don't have to answer that. I already know.

 

[stickty111]

Leafs prospects are looking really good. Looks like the plan hasnt failed after all.

 

[FreeBird]

What is a 'legit prospect'?

The reason that there are no Ehler's or "Jack Hockey's" is because those players make your rosters and don't really stay in the minors/junior long, we've seen it already with a few of our own players (Nylander/Marner/Matthews).

You're just not well versed in this topic, which isn't your fault, it's just not for everyone.

Our top scorer on the Marlies is ranked 41 on the AHL scoring list, Mr Johnsson, as Babs has pointed out on many occasions the Leafs depth at the centre ice position is Weak. Now that's Depth.