SoupNazi
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Real question I have is do we go after Vanek, jump the queue and lock him up before free agency? We should have the cap space. If we talk about potential trades with NYI, I want to know what his price is.
Real question I have is do we go after Vanek, jump the queue and lock him up before free agency? We should have the cap space. If we talk about potential trades with NYI, I want to know what his price is.
Vanek is a younger, more expensive and less physical Franzen who has produced more in the past because he wasn't required to be as responsible defensively, got more ice-time and always played with his teams most skilled players.
I'll take that 40 goals with Dats/Z any day without any defence. We have enough defensive skill in this team and we will add defensive skill promoting Sheahan and Ferraro. Let's bolster a net-front scorer.
You would but Babcock wouldn't
Babcock WOULD LOVE 6'2, right-handed, net-front specialist. (don't tell anybody that he is also fast skater, nice passer and great scorer)
With trader Burkie at the helm, he's likely going to make a deal before his new GM arrives. Only because he can't help it. How about we move Sammy, Toots and a prospect to get Hudler back. Burkie will never keep Hudler and Cammalleri on that team. Whoever he hires will do exactly as he says. Thoughts?
Babcock WOULD LOVE 6'2, right-handed, net-front specialist. (don't tell anybody that he is also fast skater, nice passer and great scorer)
That's exactly what Franzen is except he actually hits once in a while. Babcock would require him to play within the system rather than free lance offensive specialist.
Refer to Stephen Weiss to see what happens to career top liners on ****** teams who get moved to a good team that requires them to play within a defensive system.
Comparing Franzen and Vanek is analogous to comparing Fil to Weiss before the season started.
Opinion around here was almost unanimous.
Grass is always greener on the other side.
I strongly disagree. Vanek has scored two 40 goal seasons with 16-17min icetime. Franzen has scored +30 goals once.
He's the best free agent there at next summer. Let's not try to sign the best player when we have a lot cap space?
Vanek compliments with our needs. Adds handness and size (when somebody pointed out that only one of our TOP7 forwards are over 5'11 sized). Then we would have two bigger guys at TOP6 WITH skill. Mule and Vanek.
We have to get those bigger guys somewhere. You rather extend Bertuzzi and say no to Vanek?
i think our biggest need is a proper #1 ppqb and a good puck moving/transition dman who can get the puck up and out in a hurry accurately
our game has lagged because of the loss of lidstrom and raflaksi more then any other dimension
I strongly disagree. Vanek has scored two 40 goal seasons with 16-17min icetime. Franzen has scored +30 goals once.
He's the best free agent there at next summer. Let's not try to sign the best player when we have a lot cap space?
Vanek compliments with our needs. Adds handness and size (when somebody pointed out that only one of our TOP7 forwards are over 5'11 sized). Then we would have two bigger guys at TOP6 WITH skill. Mule and Vanek.
We have to get those bigger quality guys from somewhere. You rather extend Bertuzzi and say no to Vanek?
Vanek doesn't use his size. I would rather try Mantha or Jurco or try and make a move for a forward with size who IS physical like Chris Stewart.
We have one of those.
vanek uses his size in front of the net. he doesn't go out hitting people on forecheck or anything but neither does mantha or jurco.
hitting and skating is the only area where stewart is better than vanek.
Who? I love Kronwall. But he's not an ideal 1st unit PP QB.