GWT: PL Matchweek (mostly) 18 - on borrowed time?

[Savant]

Saturday 18 December

Man Utd x Brighton - postponed
Aston Villa x Burnley - postponed
Southampton x Brentford - postponed
Watford x Crystal Palace - postponed
West Ham x Norwich - postponed
Leeds x Arsenal

Sunday 19 December

Everton x Leicester - postponed
Wolverhampton x Chelsea
Newcastle x Man City
Tottenham x Liverpool

Carabao Cup QF currently scheduled for midweek

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[Paulie Gualtieri]

Yeah, this isn't sustainable.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

 

[PeteWorrell]

The team is doing well without him so they are obviously not in a hurry to reinstate him.

 

[Chimaera]

The trouble is, stopping the season doesn't really work. If you took off, say, 2 weeks, what are you making the players do? Go to lockdown?

 

[hatterson]

The trouble is, stopping the season doesn't really work. If you took off, say, 2 weeks, what are you making the players do? Go to lockdown?

That’d be the only thing that really makes sense. Have the players bubble a bit, come back to games, and then, when the wave dies down, go back to how it was.

Based on the SA wave, Omicron looks like it may burst hard and peak quickly. If that’s true, the UK may be on the other side of the wave by early Jan.

 

[Chimaera]

I get that, but you're basically defaulting on the holiday period of matches, and the revenue that comes with it.

 

[bluesfan94]

I think rather than postpone everything two weeks, it makes sense to keep postponing teams as and when necessary. What’s the practical difference?

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Any option other than:

1)No postponements
2)All postponements

....will screw over some teams. But it is what it is. It's not going to be good.

 

[Brunkmeister]

They will obviously have to skip the scheduled break in late january/early february.

 

[robertmac43]

Aston Villa x Burnley

Glad to see the Burnley game is still on.... Of all the teams lol

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

 

[robertmac43]

Hmm going to be really interested to see what these clubs come up with.

 

[Chimaera]

PL managers will meet Monday.

No idea what they're gonna figure out.

 

[Savant]

Hmm going to be really interested to see what these clubs come up with.

According to Klopp, LFC is over 99% double vaccinated.

 

[bluesfan94]

According to Klopp, LFC is over 99% double vaccinated.

This shit never makes sense to me. Because to be over 99% vaccinated, you have to have over 990 players. Unless you're counting stewards, etc, this number is basically impossible. And if you're counting all of those types of people, then the number becomes meaningless because the real question is the number of first team players and staff that are double vaxxed.

Unless of course you're 100% vaccinated but then why wouldn't you just say 100% vaccinated

 

[Savant]

This shit never makes sense to me. Because to be over 99% vaccinated, you have to have over 990 players. Unless you're counting stewards, etc, this number is basically impossible. And if you're counting all of those types of people, then the number becomes meaningless because the real question is the number of first team players and staff that are double vaxxed.

Unless of course you're 100% vaccinated but then why wouldn't you just say 100% vaccinated

Honestly I think you just focus on the positive. Compare what Klopp is saying, and what Mo Salah is saying and how they are being very vaccine supportive compared to what other like David Moyes have said. Klopp’s point is the overwhelming majority of the team has doubled up, at least the players and staff who are at the training ground and in contact with the first team squad.

I don’t have a problem with not saying 100% because with the way the UK media works they will try to find someone who isn’t, or is waiting in between appointments or something to discredit the positives, (being that LFC compared to the numbers associated with the league is resounding above average) as a whole. Not saying 100% protects against (for example) like a club chef that isn’t fully vaccinated.

 

[bluesfan94]

Honestly I think you just focus on the positive. Compare what Klopp is saying, and what Mo Salah is saying and how they are being very vaccine supportive compared to what other like David Moyes have said. Klopp’s point is the overwhelming majority of the team has doubled up, at least the players and staff who are at the training ground and in contact with the first team squad.

I don’t have a problem with not saying 100% because with the way the UK media works they will try to find someone who isn’t, or is waiting in between appointments or something to discredit the positives, (being that LFC compared to the numbers associated with the league is resounding above average) as a whole.

Yeah, I should be clear. I'm obviously glad that Liverpool seems to be mostly double vaxxed. That's fantastic news and I hope every club is like that. I was just expressing my frustration with peoples' understanding of statistics.

I apologize for having that come off as negative toward Liverpool/Klopp; he is hardly unique in this

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Honestly I think you just focus on the positive. Compare what Klopp is saying, and what Mo Salah is saying and how they are being very vaccine supportive compared to what other like David Moyes have said. Klopp’s point is the overwhelming majority of the team has doubled up, at least the players and staff who are at the training ground and in contact with the first team squad.

I don’t have a problem with not saying 100% because with the way the UK media works they will try to find someone who isn’t, or is waiting in between appointments or something to discredit the positives, (being that LFC compared to the numbers associated with the league is resounding above average) as a whole.

The point Moyes was making was you're not going to be able to browbeat people into getting vaccinated. He managed to do that in a stupid/cringe/tone deaf way, but you're making it sound like Moyes *isn't* vaccine supportive. At this point, the information is out there. Anyone that doesn't get vaccinated is just being willfully ignorant, but I have no idea how to combat that at this stage.

If Liverpool isn't 100% vaccinated, which sounds like it isn't, Klopp doesn't sound like he's putting much pressure on that player either.

 

[Savant]

The point Moyes was making was you're not going to be able to browbeat people into getting vaccinated. He managed to do that in a stupid and tone deaf way, but you're making it sound like Moyes *isn't* vaccine supportive. At this point, the information is out there. Anyone that doesn't get vaccinated is just being willfully ignorant, but I have no idea how to combat that at this stage.

If Liverpool isn't 100% vaccinated, which sounds like it isn't, Klopp doesn't sound like he's putting much pressure on that player either.

I don’t know if Moyes is vaccinate supportive or not. I agree he was stupid and tone deaf. My point is simply to compare the dialogue between the two. It’s a completely different tone.

I don’t know if Klopp is putting pressure on players but it’s a strong locker room (not to say others teams aren’t) and especially after Klopp’s mom died it’s been very pro-vaccine over there and it’s seems to have created a lot of unity in terms of getting the vaccine

 

[robertmac43]

According to Klopp, LFC is over 99% double vaccinated.

Is he the remaining 1%?

 

[Savant]

Is he the remaining 1%?

Not at all. Klopp was first in line after his mom died.

 

[robertmac43]

Not at all. Klopp was first in line after his mom died.

Oh really? Sorry I completely miss reading a quote from him about using his imagination to decide on vaccine...

 

[Savant]

Oh really? Sorry I completely miss reading a quote from him about using his imagination to decide on vaccine...

Klopp probably knows about, and is more articulate on the vaccine, than most of the UK government.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Goes to show that two shots isn't enough anymore.