GWT: PL Matchweek (mostly) 16 & 17

[Jussi]

BrightOFF

 

[Jussi]

 

[HoseEmDown]

That's a pretty asinine idea, letting players spread it to other players. f*** player safety! I want my football! f*** your health!

If they're vaccinated then what are they worried about?

 

[Jussi]

If they're vaccinated then what are they worried about?

Not nearly enough of the players are vaccinated.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

I feel like injuries shouldn't factor into these numbers. Teams have to plug injury holes with u23s or whatever all the time. They should purely being looking at the health and safety protocols.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Lukaku not in Chelsea's squad today, so I gotta assume he's one of the three cases in the squad. Pulisic starts up top.

 

[Jack Straw]

 

[Savant]

Virgil, Fabinho and Jones out due to Covid

 

[HoseEmDown]

Not nearly enough of the players are vaccinated.

If you are unvaccinated you clearly know the risks of Covid and aren't as worried about it as everyone else wants you to be. These guys are young and healthy so if they get it will fight it off quickly and without much damage if any. They also are probably tested daily, maybe before and after the game so they would know if they have it before they went home.

 

[robertmac43]

These next couple of weeks are really going to test teams' depth....

 

[Evilo]

Most people in hospitals were vaccinated.
So please.... Stop with the "they're vaccinated so who cares?".

 

[Jersey Fresh]

That is absolutely false. Most vaccinated people have mild symptoms that don't require hospitalization. The hospitals were being filled by the unvaccinated.

That's not an endorsement of "they're vaccinated so whatever" sentiment.

 

[Evilo]

For instance in France 60‰ of the hospitalized people are vaccinated.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

That is absolutely false. Most vaccinated people have mild symptoms that don't require hospitalization. The hospitals were being filled by the unvaccinated.

That's not an endorsement of "they're vaccinated so whatever" sentiment.

Bingo!

 

[JeffreyLFC]

For instance in France 60‰ of the hospitalized people are vaccinated.

Which is totally normal if there is a significant majority that are vaccinated.

And they are also most likely the most at risk...

 

[Blender]

 

[Evilo]

Which is totally normal if there is a significant majority that are vaccinated.

Absolutely this is just obvious. But it doesn't fit with the "who cares they're vaccinated".

 

[Evilo]

The proportion of 40% of unvaccinated in hospital is huge since we're at something like 90% vaccinated.

 

[Evilo]

Bingo!

Bingo what?

 

[Evilo]

If you are unvaccinated you clearly know the risks of Covid and aren't as worried about it as everyone else wants you to be. These guys are young and healthy so if they get it will fight it off quickly and without much damage if any. They also are probably tested daily, maybe before and after the game so they would know if they have it before they went home.

Plenty of healthy sports people fell ill.
You should not play with health. Vaccinated or not.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Bingo what?

Vaccination is important and will prevent most hospitalization.
Also booster has been proven effective against the mutated strain. Unvaccinated people are highly more at risk on contracting the virus and on being hospitalized because of it.

 

[S E P H]

Vaccination is important and will prevent most hospitalization.

Actually not, a UK study over a three to five month time frame still saw 77.8% of people die being vaccinated. My next door neighbour had her brother die being fully vaccinated. I want as much of an Covid vaccine out there as possible, but these three aren't the answer at this current point in time. The best one is J&J and some countries like Suisse actually took it off the market at a time due to it forming blood clots. It's all about do the pros outweigh the cons, if you want the vaccine because you don't want to get sick, then take the J&J, but also remember that it does have some potential negatives out there.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Plenty of healthy sports people fell ill.
You should not play with health. Vaccinated or not.

How ill we talking? Who was forced into retirement because of Covid?

Most of the current cases are mild at best. If a player has the flu they aren't forced to quarantine. Jordan won a playoff series with the flu. If these guys aren't symptomatic why are we stopping the games? They are playing outdoors.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Actually not, a UK study over a three to five month time frame still saw 77.8% of people die being vaccinated. My next door neighbour had her brother die being fully vaccinated. I want as much of an Covid vaccine out there as possible, but these three aren't the answer at this current point in time. The best one is J&J and some countries like Suisse actually took it off the market at a time due to it forming blood clots. It's all about do the pros outweigh the cons, if you want the vaccine because you don't want to get sick, then take the J&J, but also remember that it does have some potential negatives out there.

Which is also quite possible because the most vulnerable are most likely fully vaccinated but they are still at risk. But vaccination still in the grand scheme preventing most people from dying compared to unvaccinated.

 

[Chimaera]

peacock is garbage. Not loading. Fun times.