Shady Machine
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Watching people argue Kessel is better than Benn and Perry must be the most entertaining thing this off season.
Better than asking if Kessel is better than Neal?
Watching people argue Kessel is better than Benn and Perry must be the most entertaining thing this off season.
you could argue for Hall and Tarasenko and Seguin
Ovi, Benn, Perry, Kane, Tarasenko, Hall, parise
I already talked about the others and I really like Parise, but he still isn't on Kessel's level.
The last four years Parise has scored:
69
38 (short)
56
62
Kessel:
82
52 (short)
80
61
It's not really even close. Kessel has been banged on for so long that people just don't get it. Most people just don't get how elite this guy is and I've been having this argument for years. It's just comical how people allow looks and half truths to form their opinions.
At the same time Kessel does have a bad rep for a reason... a rep that goes back to Chuck Grillo camps and followed him through the NHL. Plus he's played a very me first game up until the past 2 or 3 years. That's why I never liked him... the people overblowing his play because he's flashy do add to it though.And also: if you're allowing other people's opinions to make you hate someone...
Maybe stop?
At the same time Kessel does have a bad rep for a reason... a rep that goes back to Chuck Grillo camps and followed him through the NHL. Plus he's played a very me first game up until the past 2 or 3 years. That's why I never liked him... the people overblowing his play because he's flashy do add to it though.
In the end I want the Pens to do that trade 10 x's out of 10. They gave up spare parts for a 30-40 goal scorer and finally added some speed to the wing. I think he's matured and some attitude is a good thing.
Kaner has to be up there too.I can't speak to his game before he was a Leaf, but he's easily been their best playmaker since he put on a Leaf's jersey.
I've seen the guy play as much as anyone on here since he became a Leaf I'm willing to bet, and his numbers are as elite as you will find for a winger in this league, save AO.
People just dislike him because he looks like a homeless guy and he's awkward as hell, but that shouldn't take away from his accomplishments in this league, and he's done it without a whole lot of help.
Basically a good Nash/Hall/Parise season is a bad Kessel season.
I never said anything about Nash. Hall is as good or better than Kessel offensively. Parise isn't as good offensively but overall is better.
Is this serious?
His slapper is no joke
Wrister is top 3 in the league
Speed is insane
Way better overall. Not even close
Kane and Perry are comparable and you could argue either way depending on what skill set you value more. That's it.
You guys ever stop and think that some of you may get caught up in the minutia?
Top-5, top-10, whatever, Phil Kessel is an elite winger and either the best or second best winger to put on the sweater in the Cralkin Era.
Kaner has to be up there too.
Points only do so much. Its exactly what the Pens need but in terms of better wingers around the league I would still take AO Perry, Benn and Parise over him. Tarasenko needs to prove himself a little more but I think he can be better than all of them.
I don't think Kessel was ever a bad passer. He just took time to learn the bait and lure game. Kind of like Kovalchuk when he went to the Devils.
Kessel is slightly better than Neal, but not the grand canyon gap that people here are giving. I still rather have Neal @ 5mil /yr than Kessel.
Over the last 3yrs
Kessel scored 2.1pts/60min, Neal 2.0
2 best wings are Tarasenko and Perry IMO