Panarin to the Blackhawks!

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JaegerDice

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There is nothing like overrating a guy (who has never played a NHL game) to the point of starting him on the second line of the Hawks.

I never claimed he would start on the 2nd line.

But saying that people should calm down (which is fair) and citing his size as a reason is silly.
 

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Well, you'll see him soon in WHC, where he is going to be one of the main Russia's weapons. But as to his qualities, I don't think he's Patrick Kane. To me he's more like Jaden Schwartz.

He's very gritty, always forechecking, and good hands help him to take the puck away from defenders. He's perhaps even better playmaker, than sniper. His onetimer isn't bad, but his stickhandling, scating and passing are even better. He's all about strong mentality, hard working and good work ethics. And I bet the team that will sign him, gets some young Russian girls as new fans as a bonus.

That's what I like to hear.
 

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There is nothing like overrating a guy (who has never played a NHL game) to the point of starting him on the second line of the Hawks.

The guy was the 4th leading scorer in the 2nd best league in the world. At 23. If you don't think that translates, I don't know what to tell you.
 

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There is nothing like overrating a guy (who has never played a NHL game) to the point of starting him on the second line of the Hawks.

Well, I think that's the main point that might attract him, because there are a lot of NHL teams which are ready to give him a top6 role. I actually don't understand why Chicago. His good friend Tarasenko plays for the Blues, and they wouldn't mind to get a cheap left winger with upside. The line Panarin - Lehtera - Tarasenko looks pretty sexy.

Then there is the Pens who desperately need a cost controlled LW to play with Malkin. Considering both are Russians this signing would look even more logical.

And then there is Chicago which doesn't have Russians and hasn't signed any for a decade. And if the management doesn't promise him a top6 role, then I see no reasons for Panarin to come to the Hawks.
 

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Not expecting much if he is signed, but more than happy to take the chance.

Truth be told I'd be more thrilled if Tikhonov signs with us. Think he has all the ability in the world to be a great bottom six player, and if his last name was Thomas he'd already be established as such.
 

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Well, I think that's the main point that might attract him, because there are a lot of NHL teams which are ready to give him a top6 role. I actually don't understand why Chicago. His good friend Tarasenko plays for the Blues, and they wouldn't mind to get a cheap left winger with upside. The line Panarin - Lehtera - Tarasenko looks pretty sexy.

Then there is the Pens who desperately need a cost controlled LW to play with Malkin. Considering both are Russians this signing would look even more logical.

And then there is Chicago which doesn't have Russians and hasn't signed any for a decade. And if the management doesn't promise him a top6 role, then I see no reasons for Panarin to come to the Hawks.

Ever been to Chicago? Pretty nice place for a wealthy young guy to live...
 

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This is huge. I remember hearing his name on Laughlin/Barnaby's show a couple times. He's very good in the KHL. He produced in the postseason also, which is even better.
 

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Ever been to Chicago? Pretty nice place for a wealthy young guy to live...

Of course, but for a good place to live he can go to New York where Islanders wouldn't mind to get a young good winger. And there are Florida teams...

I'd say when you move to a new country and culture the biggest challenge is to get adapted painlessly. That's where fellow countrymen can help. And if those fellow countrymen are big stars on their teams, it can help even more.

Not sure if Malkin could score 100+ points in his 2nd NHL season without Gonchar's help.
 

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Of course, but for a good place to live he can go to New York where Islanders wouldn't mind to get a young good winger. And there are Florida teams...

I'd say when you move to a new country and culture the biggest challenge is to get adapted painlessly. That's where fellow countrymen can help. And if those fellow countrymen are big stars on their teams, it can help even more.

Not sure if Malkin could score 100+ points in his 2nd NHL season without Gonchar's help.

Maybe he likes winning?
 

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Of course, but for a good place to live he can go to New York where Islanders wouldn't mind to get a young good winger. And there are Florida teams...

I'd say when you move to a new country and culture the biggest challenge is to get adapted painlessly. That's where fellow countrymen can help. And if those fellow countrymen are big stars on their teams, it can help even more.

Not sure if Malkin could score 100+ points in his 2nd NHL season without Gonchar's help.

If Panarin is coming, you'd have to think that Tikhonov isn't far behind. Or maybe Stan makes a move for a Russian. He brought over Teravainen as our only Finn and now Raanta, Pokka and Timonen are around.
 

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Dude outscored Ilya Kovalchuk... who's blocking him from 2nd line LW, Mark McNeill? :laugh:

To gain a bit of perspective, Steve Moses, Nigel Dawes Matt Ellison and Brian Bochenski all outscored

Kovalchuck in the regular season.
 
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Kshahdoo

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Why didn't anyone draft this guy???

He's not big and he's Russian. He scored 2 goals in that 2011 WJC final vs Canada, but nobody was still impressed. Then he had a couple of not very successful seasons in the KHL, untill he got to St. Petersburg where flourished.
 

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To gain a bit of perspective, Steve Moses and Nigel Dawes had 64 points and 56 points in the KHL.

Nigel Dawes is 30 years old. Steve Moses is 25 and might be good. He's already gotten a contract in the NHL for next year.
 

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Well, I think that's the main point that might attract him, because there are a lot of NHL teams which are ready to give him a top6 role. I actually don't understand why Chicago. His good friend Tarasenko plays for the Blues, and they wouldn't mind to get a cheap left winger with upside. The line Panarin - Lehtera - Tarasenko looks pretty sexy.

Then there is the Pens who desperately need a cost controlled LW to play with Malkin. Considering both are Russians this signing would look even more logical.

And then there is Chicago which doesn't have Russians and hasn't signed any for a decade. And if the management doesn't promise him a top6 role, then I see no reasons for Panarin to come to the Hawks.

We are the LA Lakers of the NHL. Everybody wants a piece.
 

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Honestly, Hawkscap. The dude scores more than Kovalchuk, we just saw what Lehtera did in our division and he was far less productive than Panarin in the KHL. You throw out 30 year old dudes who are scoring less than Panarin as the reason why Panarin won't be good. He's 23 years old. Don't have to be so negative

On top of that, who do you think will be the Hawks 2LW next year. Saad is 1. Then we have: Shaw, McNeill, Ross, Baun. I'll take the PPG+ guy from the KHL thank you very much,
 

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To gain a bit of perspective, Steve Moses and Nigel Dawes had 64 points and 63 points in the KHL.

Ex Hawk Matt Ellison , yes the one traded for Sharp, put up 60 pts.

Kovalchuck had 74 pts .

Yeah, and Kuznetsov scored 21 points in 31 games in his last KHL season. And the best Kovy's PPG season in the KHL was 42 points in 36 games, when he played with Tarasenko and Tikhonov.
 

Hawkscap

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I am not saying this kid can't be good but putting this guy on the second line is way too early. KHL stats translating to NHL are meaningless .

How many guys have been penciled in on the second line without playing a NHL game: Kruger Leblanc Kontiola Carrey
 

Taze em

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I am not saying this kid can't be good but putting this guy on the second line is way too early. KHL stats translating to NHL are meaningless .

How many guys have been penciled in on the second line without playing a NHL game: Kruger Leblanc Kontiola

Those were 2C hopefuls, wing is an awful lot easier.
 

RoofIt5hole

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Don't assume Q will just play the guy, you know how he is with rookies

Panarin has said he wants a top 6 role with a team that is contending. If there were 10 teams in on him, and all of them were able to the same contract, ($900k ELC with something like a 3.5 mil signing bonus) it's safe to assume he was promised at least a shot at a top 6 role with the Hawks...
 

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Honestly, Hawkscap. The dude scores more than Kovalchuk, we just saw what Lehtera did in our division and he was far less productive than Panarin in the KHL. You throw out 30 year old dudes who are scoring less than Panarin as the reason why Panarin won't be good. He's 23 years old. Don't have to be so negative

On top of that, who do you think will be the Hawks 2LW next year. Saad is 1. Then we have: Shaw, McNeill, Ross, Baun. I'll take the PPG+ guy from the KHL thank you very much,

You're assuming Sharp is gone. Also, I'm going to be curious to see how Q handles this kid. I don't know how solid his D game is but Q has shown zero reservation for benching kids until they prove they can be responsible on D. Tuevo has always had sick offensive abilities and Q still benched him a ton, despite him working on his defensive game.

Maybe things change next season if we take a step down from being cup contenders but I'd be surprised to see Quenville give this kid consistent top 6 ice time
 

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You're assuming Sharp is gone. Also, I'm going to be curious to see how Q handles this kid. I don't know how solid his D game is but Q has shown zero reservation for benching kids until they prove they can be responsible on D. Tuevo has always had sick offensive abilities and Q still benched him a ton, despite him working on his defensive game.

Maybe things change next season if we take a step down from being cup contenders but I'd be surprised to see Quenville give this kid consistent top 6 ice time

Q has never benched Teravainen due to his defense. He has said nothing but glowing things about Teravainen's defense since prospect camp.

Q won't have any options. Again, is he going to play hardball with Panarin, what's he going to do... play Mark McNeill or Garrett Ross over him? Panarin will be the second most experienced LW on the team next year.
 
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