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If the leafs are trading nylander , it’s for a young top pair dman. Not a guy who’s never healthy for a full season and has a career high of 33 pts. I’d maybd trade Gardiner for him though.
Value of: Nylander (TOR) for a Dman
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Leafs laugh and hang up the phone.
We're not adding to Nylander so we can have a 2nd Gardiner
Damn dude, that's some lofty expectations.
The player being offered has scored at a 73% clip (60 points) before his 22nd birthday.
What else?
He's restricted for 5+ more years so acquiring team would maintain control of said player.
He's been very healthy.
He's an ES goal-scorer so he's not a one-trick PP pony.
I'm sure there are several players better than Nylander that may be available *rolls eyes*
BruinLVGA
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If the kid doesn't have the minerals to withstand the playoffs amped up intensity physical-wise, you better believe that his value is lower. Willy was terrified out there.
Now find me any Bruins players who were shaking in their boots, à la Nylander.
Well, not lofty really, if I have a d-man worth more then Nylander, lets say Jones, Im sure want a better player then Nylander as a main piece, Im I wrong?
Notsince67
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The only D I'd be interested in if Nylander was involved in a trade is Doughty. Throw in Jake Gardiner and a 2nd and away we go.
WTFMAN99
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Nylander wouldn't be on the table for Weber.
I'd have some interest in Weber I guess
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1st 2018
Kapanen/Brown (your choice)
Rasanen (6'7, 2nd round choice of ours in last draft)
Conditional 2019 pick, if Toronto advances to the 2nd round, Montreal gets our 2019 2nd, if Toronto finishes in the final 4 or better, Montreal gets the 2019 1st.
I don't think Dubas would and I don't see Habs management giving up on competing and rebuilding. Bergevin will likely fail again this year and then be fired. New GM will rebuild.
If the kid is shaking was his boots and scored 4 points, imagine how good he'll be when he gets over those young player jitters and becomes a veteran. He wasn't at his best, but this is silly and inflammatory. Not that I really want to entertain the notion that he was a scared kitten, that's just ridiculous. He had two assists in game 7 against your much bragged-about defense, he'll be fine.
Sure, but I don't even see Seth Jones's name included in the interested list, or any other in the OP.
One of the names that's missing is Jacob Slavvin, for example.
One thing the list is missing, though, are actual fits for Willy Nilly. I like Trouba, for example, but I don't think the Jets need another forward (Nylander is a winger today but I'd reckon to say that he will wind up as a center in the future, while Marner remains a RW).
This coming season it is make or break it for Willy if he wanna be a center or not. For Team Sweden it is vital he take that step, since we lack high end centers for Beijing (Im pretty sure NHL wants the chinese market)
Maplebeasts
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That soft one dimensional winger would be the second best winger on your team by far. Leafs are not in the business of trading a 21 year old proven first line player with ppg potential as a center. Especially if the offers (like the ones in here) are straight up garbage.Soft one dimensional wingers are only worth more than top pairing D-men in Toronto. That's why the Leafs have such a great D corps.
BruinLVGA
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IF he gets over those young player jitters... And 4 points in 7 games isn't something to be writing home about. Insufficient performance from someone expected to be this amazing foudre de guerre.
By the way... Marner was literally pummeled all series and yet was dominant: the best and most dangerous player on the Leafs, by leaps and bounds.
Nylander? Hell yeah he was scared out there. Didn't want to be anywhere near where he could get hit.
Ha ha ha.
Nylander would be the 5th best winger on the Jets at best. Wheeler, Laine, Ehlers and Connor are all far better than Nylander.
Menzinger
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A Kyle Dubas led Leafs team isn’t going to trade a player like Nylander, and certainly not during his first offseason as Gm.
My friend, you're the one who's telling me that a 22 year old might not improve. I'm not going to argue against that, I know we both know the arguments and have better things to do than type them out. By the way, Danton Heinen and his one point/healthy scrathes fits the bill for a Bruin who was shaking in their boots. Do we expect Heinen to be a playoff disaster? Or can we extend the courtesy of optimism towards both of these younger players.
Marner being fantastic does not actually change Nylander's outlook in the future. Marner was definitely the best Leaf while both Matthews and Nylander struggled, I'm not arguing that they didn't.
Nylander tends to be a perimeter player even in the regular season. It's one of the biggest needs for improvement in his game. With his slick hands and skating, I'm always begging at the TV for him to drop the shoulder and take the puck to the net instead of looping around and passing it back to the point for the 10th time. He's trying to back the defenders off for a clear point shot where Matthews or Hyman can score in tight. It gets points, but adding the net drive and making the pass/play down low himself would give him more options and be a big improvement. He didn't play well against you guys, but I didn't see him as playing a different style in the playoffs than he has so far in the regular season. Is this perimeter style good in the playoffs? Not particularly. If he doesn't improve, will he continue to struggle in the playoffs? Probably. Do I expect him to improve there? Absolutely, he's 22 and constantly improving his game.
Menzinger
Kessel4LadyByng
Ha ha ha.
Nylander would be the 5th best winger on the Jets at best. Wheeler, Laine, Ehlers and Connor are all far better than Nylander.
Even you know this isn’t true.
Menzinger
Kessel4LadyByng
It’s harder to find two more similar players in the league than Elhers and Nylander, and Kyle Connor is not better by any measure.
DougGilmour93
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Lol. Nylander was and will be fine. He didn't play to his capability and yet still had 4pts in 7 games. He'll learn from it and be better. He had a bad start the series as did the whole team but found his game as things progressed.
Whatever makes you feel better though I guess. Granted, We may have lost that round to you guys, but we also were never picked to win by virtually anyone. After two lopsided wins in Boston where the Leafs admittedly didn't show up, the mighty Bruins lost 7 of their next 10 games. Impressive.
Ha ha ha.
Nylander would be the 5th best winger on the Jets at best. Wheeler, Laine, Ehlers and Connor are all far better than Nylander.
Wheeler, Laine, yes.
Then Ehlers is on par with Nylander and Connor is a wildcard but I like him ALOT too.
Nylander will not get a high end Dman. He is to soft for the playoffs and other teams can see that.
lanceuppercut75
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Erik Johnson is, at worst, almost as good as Rielly and better than any other Leafs defenseman. At best, he's our clear cut #1D.
I'm a Toronto fan by the way. How good a player is isn't always related to how much they are talked about, how many points they score, how flashy they play or how many highlight reels they make.
