Niagara IceDogs 2023-24 Off-Season Thread

[OMG67]

You suggested hiring good help off-season while there is good help to be had, then replacing the failing coach with the new hire at the 1/4 pole as unprofessional.
That is what Flint & OS did, just sooner than Niagara.

It does not matter if you’re not sold on Boudreau, what mattered was Niagara replacing a coach it viewed as failing ASAP. Niagara cannot afford to allow another season to spiral out of control.

The difference is RK was only JUST hired…. You don’t hire a guy you seem confident in only to replace him, generally speaking. If you have a guy you feel confident in, or in this situation, the Boudreau family comes in, why not just cut the cord if you are that confident in it as an “organizational” move?

You are suggesting that it was performance based for Niagara. What kind of demented GM in the OHL fires a guy 15 games into the season on a rebuilding team because the team is 3 points out of a playoff spot that no one (other than you) thought they would be in? Five points out of 6th in the Conference. Performance based? Really? A full 10% improvement over last season in the early stages of this season.

This points to a short trigger in order to realign the direction of the club in the direction of the Boudreau’s. Why not do it in the offseason? Start the season off with one voice instead of shifting at the quarter pole.

The other teams had longer term coaches. Flint and Owen Sound have had success. Unless there was an off ice issue or conflict with management, neither of those teams “needed” to hire a guy to stay in the wings for an early season takeover.

There is a vast difference between being on your 4th coach in 80 games and what OS and Flint are doing. You cannot honestly suggest RK Was given an honest opportunity. He pretty much stepped in at the deadline last year after the team offloaded tons of bodies and was left with a shell of a team. Now the team is filled mostly with younger skill that needs time and the coach isn’t offered an opportunity to work with the young talent….

I think the situations are VASTLY DIFFERENT and to suggest otherwise is a heavy mischaracterization of what I said.

 

[dirty12]

The difference is RK was only JUST hired….

Kawabata was JUST hired a year ago. He had a training camp, pre-season, and quarter season to show he could ‘satisfactorily’ coach the re-constructed roster

You don’t hire a guy you seem confident in only to replace him, generally speaking. If you have a guy you feel confident in, or in this situation, the Boudreau family comes in, why not just cut the cord if you are that confident in it as an “organizational” move?

You are suggesting that it was performance based for Niagara. What kind of demented GM in the OHL fires a guy 15 games into the season on a rebuilding team because the team is 3 points out of a playoff spot that no one (other than you) thought they would be in? Five points out of 6th in the Conference. Performance based? Really? A full 10% improvement over last season in the early stages of this season.

This points to a short trigger in order to realign the direction of the club in the direction of the Boudreau’s. Why not do it in the offseason? Start the season off with one voice instead of shifting at the quarter pole.

The other teams had longer term coaches. Flint and Owen Sound have had success. Unless there was an off ice issue or conflict with management, neither of those teams “needed” to hire a guy to stay in the wings for an early season takeover.

There is a vast difference between being on your 4th coach in 80 games and what OS and Flint are doing. You cannot honestly suggest RK Was given an honest opportunity. He pretty much stepped in at the deadline last year after the team offloaded tons of bodies and was left with a shell of a team. Now the team is filled mostly with younger skill that needs time and the coach isn’t offered an opportunity to work with the young talent….

I think the situations are VASTLY DIFFERENT and to suggest otherwise is a heavy mischaracterization of what I said.

 

[OMG67]

Kawabata was JUST hired a year ago. He had a training camp, pre-season, and quarter season to show he could ‘satisfactorily’ coach the re-constructed roster

LOL. OK. That is the new benchmark of opportunity?

RK had a half season of post-deadline selloff. That isn’t an opportunity. That is running out the schedule. As if that counts for anything. Not to mention, the selloff was to replace all the draft picks set on fire the previous offseason.

Team has a 10% win% improvement To date.

I hope Boudreau can live up to the new benchmarks. He has 50 games remaining in the season. He needs >10% win% improvement which basically means he needs to play .500 the rest of the way. If he doesn’t, his head gets lopped off 15 games into next season and that is IF he can get the team up to .500 the rest of the way. After all, this is a solid roster, right?

We’ve had a difference of opinion regarding the Ice Dogs stretching back to last years offseason. DD has crippled the franchise. He’s created a gong show. We’ll see how well he can navigate the next handful of trade requests…. It has been a pretty epic series of events that have all led to a continued tire fire. Fans walking away, media mocking it, insiders shaking their heads. At what point do you wash your hands of this steadfast opinion DD is simply just misunderstood and athe team is only a group of underachievers?

 

[three dog night]

A heart breaking los last night to Sault 5 to 4 despite Klein two goals 4,014 watched the game at the Meridian Centre zero for two under the new coach.

 

[three dog night]

IceDog 5 Barrie 2 six game winless streak is done. 2,765 fans watched the game at the Meridian Centre.

 

[three dog night]

Tough loss tonight in Guelph 3 to 2 Vanderberg the loss 4,8000 plus in Guelph.Next game tomorrow night at home against Saginaw.

 

[dirty12]

Anyone know the injury or illness of Assadourian, Crane, Paris, Wyscik?

 

[three dog night]

Anyone know the injury or illness of Assadourian, Crane, Paris, Wyscik?

Paris concussion Wysik hip Assadourian knee Crane shoulder should be back in three weeks.

 

[dirty12]

Paris concussion Wysik hip Assadourian knee Crane shoulder should be back in three weeks.

Ouch

 

[the dog]

Elite prospects showing Ryan Humphrey transfer to Green Bay Gamblers of ushl.

 

[three dog night]

Not on the roster.

Elite prospects showing Ryan Humphrey transfer to Green Bay Gamblers of ushl.

Elite prospects showing Ryan Humphrey transfer to Green Bay Gamblers of ushlNot

 

[dirty12]

Not on the roster.

Coach has authority

 

[HockeyPops]

 

[three dog night]

Did Niagara put him on waivers

 

[HockeyPops]

They don't have to waive him for him to go to another league. No idea if he's been waived.

EDIT: I stand corrected.

 

[Dog Fan]

There goes one of our trade chips

 

[OHL4Life]

They don't have to waive him for him to go to another league. No idea if he's been waived.

in order for him to be released from his card and sign another card in a different league, he would have to be waived. the ushl cant sign an ohl player without that ohl player getting a release.

There goes one of our trade chips

he had no value despite the cost that niagara gave up to get him.

 

[HockeyPops]

in order for him to be released from his card and sign another card in a different league, he would have to be waived. the ushl cant sign an ohl player without that ohl player getting a release.

I stand corrected.

 

[Dog Fan]

I believe that the play of Galiyanov and a lot of players returning from injury forced this issue. He likely wasn't going to play much. His lack of discipline hurt the team, as well.

 

[the dog]

I believe that the play of Galiyanov and a lot of players returning from injury forced this issue. He likely wasn't going to play much. His lack of discipline hurt the team, as well.

Terrible numbers for oa only 2 goals

 

[OHL4Life]

Terrible numbers for oa only 2 goals

he had bad numbers the year before, why give up that much for him?

 

[DWI Dale]

i'm not a big fan of hockey conspiracy theories but there's some highly suspect behaviour out of niagara...

 

[dirty12]

I believe that the play of Galiyanov and a lot of players returning from injury forced this issue. He likely wasn't going to play much. His lack of discipline hurt the team, as well.

Humphrey’s last act as an IceDog was bad.

 

[Section5Petes]

Wonder what Mathieu Paris' trade value is right now? Take away his 5 point game and he is at 0.50ppg

 

[three dog night]

Wonder what Mathieu Paris' trade value is right now? Take away his 5 point game and he is at 0.50ppg

He is injured out long term