Confirmed Trade: [MTL/TOR] Plekanec (50%), Baun for Valiev, Rychel, 2nd

[Michel Beauchamp]

Wait, so he'll have 2 1,000th ganes?

There's nothing illogical about the 1,000th game with the same team and the 1,000th game in the NHL being two different games...

 

[Subbanned]

I'm loving the return lololll. We ripped the leafs off. Valiev is impressive. He can be a 4/5 in like a year or 2. Plus a second.... thanks a lot!!

No, we definitely didn't rip them off. Valiev is not impressive and the sad state of our blueline would be the only reason he cracks it in a few years. But the 2nd is good value for Pleks. I think it was good for us and pretty good for the Leafs but that concept is foreign to most of the mouthbreathers on HFB.

 

[Subbanned]

Is his defensive game actually any good? People have been saying he's good defensively but unless that translates into taking dumb penalties, he didn't show it last night.

Always thought he was a mediocre scrub in Montreal and I don't think he'll change my mind.

It's almost like one (or even a few) games isn't enough to judge a player. Herp derp.

 

[hotpaws]

Wait, so he'll have 2 1,000th ganes?

and i guess the games in between the two 1,000 games don't get counted . lol

 

[Scott Stevens]

No, we definitely didn't rip them off. Valiev is not impressive and the sad state of our blueline would be the only reason he cracks it in a few years. But the 2nd is good value for Pleks. I think it was good for us and pretty good for the Leafs but that concept is foreign to most of the mouthbreathers on HFB.

Mouth breathers to me implies more like caveman mentality, old school, “eye test” proponents.

Around here? More like wheezy, inhaler clutching stat dorks.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

Mouth breathers to me implies more like caveman mentality, old school, “eye test” proponents.

Around here? More like wheezy, inhaler clutching stat dorks.

Hopefully, there are still a few of us cavemen around who don't trust the Emperor's New Clothes that are advanced stats.

To understand why, I'll mention just one name: Franson...

 

[thunder16]

Bergevin committing highway robbery.

You meant to say Hall for Larson was the crime of the Century.

 

[Schennanigans]

This guy sucks...

 

[The Great Weal]

This guy sucks...

I mean you should give him more time, but I personally wouldn't have given up a 2nd for him.

 

[Legend123]

No, we definitely didn't rip them off. Valiev is not impressive and the sad state of our blueline would be the only reason he cracks it in a few years. But the 2nd is good value for Pleks. I think it was good for us and pretty good for the Leafs but that concept is foreign to most of the mouthbreathers on HFB.

pleks should have never returned a 2nd

 

[Habs Halifax]

This guy sucks...

2nd round pick (+) for a 4th line center... genius move by Lou!

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

This guy sucks...

He's fine in a defensive role, however his offensive game has dropped off significantly in the last two years and he basically kills any momentum in the offensive zone.

 

[tokyoite]

Both Rychel and Valiev weren't good enough to impress our coach.
Good luck to both with the new team.
Tbh, I don't really miss them.

 

[Ropesman]

I think people are forgetting to factor in the prices paid during this trade deadline. Vanek cost VGK a 1,2,3 rounder, yes they are all in different years but the fact remains that prices this year were very inflated. So the 2nd rounder given up for a quality defensive center is not absurd. Two low to middling prospects is the price we had to pay for dealing with our biggest rival.

 

[smirob]

I think Plekanec will help most during the playoffs. He plays well in a shutdown role. Don’t expect much from him offensively, but this is a good deal for both teams imo.

 

[MattySnipes]

I mean you should give him more time, but I personally wouldn't have given up a 2nd for him.

He is not worth the 2nd, Leafs have said this themselves. They would have paid less, but the reason they gave the 2nd is because they retained 50% on Pleks. Makes sense. It gave Lou some flexibility to make an add on TD day, however that didn't end up working out but that's the whole reason they paid the 2nd. They wanted cap flexibility.

Two middling prospects who will never make the Leafs due to our team. Maybe in Montreal they will get a decent shot and could become good players. Chances are very low, but there is always a chance. Good deal for both teams. Pleks provides flexibility throughout the lineup and can draw in on any position. It's a great tool for Babcock to have for the playoffs, + he has a lot of experience playing against the Bruins, who are looking like our 1st rd match up. Sometimes you gotta pay for something good that you see can help. You can't rip off a GM every time

 

[bryan1966]

I think people are forgetting to factor in the prices paid during this trade deadline. Vanek cost VGK a 1,2,3 rounder, yes they are all in different years but the fact remains that prices this year were very inflated. So the 2nd rounder given up for a quality defensive center is not absurd. Two low to middling prospects is the price we had to pay for dealing with our biggest rival.

Vegas paid that for Tatar who is a much better player signed for a few years and only 27 years old and not for Vanek.

 

[Edgy]

So what does that say about the rest of the team on the Habs including Drouin, Chuck if Pleks is washed up offensively?...because Pleks actually leads the Habs in even strength points and gets zero PP time...despite regularly facing top lines on a pretty regular basis at ES. Comparatively, we're using him in a 4th line role, it's night and day.

It says we're playing our center as a winger, our winger as a center because our GM and coach are idiots. It says we buried Glachenyuk on the 4th line for about a third of the season because that's how Claude teaches "defensive responsibility". It says our GM traded good assets and couldn't get a first line center back, despite claiming that that's the only way to get it done.

It basically says we're being coached and managed by a clown and his sidekick.

If that makes you feel better I guess, the only prize here is a very late 2nd and Timmins doesn't exactly instill confidence with it.

Timmins isn't bad from the 2nd round onward really, it's the first that usually busts for some reason.

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

You meant to say Hall for Larson was the crime of the Century.

Nah this one is worse.

 

[Eb]

I think people are forgetting to factor in the prices paid during this trade deadline. Vanek cost VGK a 1,2,3 rounder, yes they are all in different years but the fact remains that prices this year were very inflated. So the 2nd rounder given up for a quality defensive center is not absurd. Two low to middling prospects is the price we had to pay for dealing with our biggest rival.

1) It was Tatar they traded for.
2) The third rounder isn't even in this decade
3) Tatar is a rental, he's signed for another 3 years.
4) I like the Plek deal

 

[rent free]

I mean you should give him more time, but I personally wouldn't have given up a 2nd for him.

well thats our gm for ya. trades a 2nd for a 4th liner and trades 2 4th liners for a 4th and a 7th in future years

 

[Duke16]

•Valiev is solid, but also requested a trade, per Lavoie
•Rychel, who was once highly touted, has no (or a very minimal) NHL future
•Sure, the 2nd hurts, but we have another this year, plus it was probably necessary to put our offer above others

 

[Walshy7]

I mean if a 2nd round pick for a 4th liner is highway robbery, that is some very small minded thinking. WE have another 2nd, we have better prospects on the marlies than rychel on wing and better prospects on d in the marlies than Valiev. We pretty much gave them away as a favour to them, let them go to a shitty team where they might make it one day. They sure as hell had no chance at the leafs. 2nd is high but it was 50% retained no big deal.

 

[Hostile Offer]

well thats our gm for ya. trades a 2nd for a 4th liner and trades 2 4th liners for a 4th and a 7th in future years

He's not really a 4th liner. Maybe in your team because of your excellent C depth but ideally he's a shutdown 3rd line C. Give him some time, he's reliable, smart, a good skater and has a terrific work ethic. Just zero offensive touch and that's really the only area of the game where he's washed up.

 

[rent free]

He's not really a 4th liner. Maybe in your team because of your excellent C depth but ideally he's a shutdown 3rd line C. Give him some time, he's reliable, smart, a good skater and has a terrific work ethic. Just zero offensive touch and that's really the only area of the game where he's washed up.

yah hope to god he isn't a liability