Gretzky wanted to leave and he was successful so it works both ways.Dudes let's be honest Connor will not be willing to wait through a slow rebuild, knock on wood we don't get there (knocked my forehead) but if Connor does make a quiet trade request what would he fetch or better yet what would we be willing to accept?
Do you ever think before you post?Dudes let's be honest Connor will not be willing to wait through a slow rebuild, knock on wood we don't get there (knocked my forehead) but if Connor does make a quiet trade request what would he fetch or better yet what would we be willing to accept?
As painful as it may be, an Eric Lindros type return is something a GM should at least explore. Fact is Connor's cap hit is so high, he needs to be at the top of the league to be worth that money. Johnny Gaudreau is making half of what McDavid will make next year, with slightly better production. That's nightmarish to consider.
Gaudreau isn't in the same ballpark as McDavid.
It’ll never happen but it’s still interesting to think about. IMO, a handful of 8s and 9s can probably accomplish more than a single 10. They were forced into it but the Lindros trade set up the Nordiques/Avalanche for more than a decade of success. Chia would most definitely NOT be the one to trust with that kind of deal, though. Not sure the same return could be had in the cap era, either.
Do you ever think before you post?
McDavid’s cap hit next year is $12.5 million. That’s $2 million more than any other player in the league. Where is he going to take that cap hit where he will be in any better position than he is here? His cap hit hurts whatever team he is on unless he is far and away the best player in the league that particular season. He is smart enough to understand that and knew the potential consequences of his deal when he signed it. Seasons like this are possible when the money is spread as thin as it is. He isn’t asking for a trade any time soon because it wouldn’t solve his on ice problems. It doesn’t take much to figure that out.
I do think before I post but I've got a small brain, you gotta work with what you've got!
I get what you're saying about the cap but I think it's fair to assume any team trading for McDavid is going to be giving up some major good players with their own cap hits so it could be a wash.
My fear is this brutal season may not be the one off anomaly people are writing it off as. We have no money next year for UFA's and will have to likely lose at least one star due to cap hit (Nuge/Nurse) and we have no picks prospects to write home about (crossing fingers for Dahlin), not to mention it usually takes picks years to make it. I want to believe it will be back to playoffs next year but a lot of stars have to line up, I'm hoping our boy McDavid is willing to ride it out but if not it might be the best thing for this club (see the Avalanche/Lindros trade).
For relative value though, the situation looks worrisome. Draisaitl and McDavid are almost twice as expensive as Monahan and Gaudreau. Yet their top two forwards are outscoring ours by a decent amount. That's a huge advantage for Calgary, they'll always be able to fill their rosters with better players, our guys will be expected to carry much more of the weight by themselves.
Monahan is shooting 18% right now. The other winger on that line, Ferland is shooting 19%.
Gaudreau's on-ice shooting % is over 12.
These numbers aren't going to last.
McDavid is a much better player and it is going to show over the long term.
I mean Connor's a great player, but is he $6 million better than Gaudreau, $2 million better than the next closest in the league dollar wise??
Ughh. I have a bad feeling about his contract.
We'd have to throw in a second to even that out.Taylor Hall
Gaudreau is averaging slightly under a point a game career. Connor is averaging slightly over a point a game. How are they not even in the same ball park?
I mean Connor's a great player, but is he $6 million better than Gaudreau, $2 million better than the next closest in the league dollar wise??
Ughh. I have a bad feeling about his contract.
This exactly. People are arguing "But McDavid is better than Gaudreau!!!" Yeah no doubt everyone knows that. But he's about to be paid nearly TWICE as much. Connor is going to make 20% more than the next highest paid guys in the game. Being 10th in scoring (with nearly everyone ahead of him having games in hand) is unacceptable for someone with the most lucrative contract in the game's history.
Also people will argue that the cap hit will change over time and all that. McDavid's contract "might" be well priced one day. For one we don't know that, and two why are we paying for future performances when most other contracts (i.e. Gaureau, Monahan, Tavares) pay for their recent level of production.
Next season Connor will be making between 8-4 million dollars more than every other player currently above him in the scoring race. I don't want to hear all this crap about whether or not the Oilers are failing McDavid after he signed a contract like that. He's the highest paid player in the game's history, it's Connor's job to prove that he's worth 20% more than everyone else.