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I'm no Aquillini fan but we could have it much, much worse with ownership than them. Take it from a Sens fan, there is far worse out there...
This is fair enough, but I don't give a f*** about "tanking" I want someone who can accurately evaluate talent which is by far the biggest need when rebuilding.I'm a Sabres fan. Be careful what you wish for when calling for a complete tank and rebuild. It can be much longer and painful than the tank commanders think.
That argument might make more sense of Aquilini was making these terrible moves. He isn't, Benning is.This thread is an example of why I do not visit that much. The problem is not Benning and Linden. It is the owner. He refuses tom accept the full rebuild we need. The guy believes you can rebuild on the fly and dictating to the guys that they are to build a team that need to be competitive. That is why Erickson for a 6 year 36mill contract, Gagner got a 3 year 9.6 contract and MDZ got 2 year 6 mill--the owner dictated it. Sadly I think we may need to sink to a new hell to get the owner to stop being so hands on and let people do their thing.
we are a 500 club
We were fine two weeks ago because our schedule had been super soft. Lots of people saw this coming.google "scapegoat"
we suck so it must be somebody's fault and they need to be punished now.
the fact we were fine two weeks ago does not matter because, "oh look, a birdie!"
So you are saying Benning doesn't want to rebuild and is doing it his way. So fire him for being bad at his job.The owners refuses to accept that a rebuild is needed and he will only hire people who agree with that idea
And 560/570 is the Breakeven point.we are a 500 club
The Canucks rebuild arguably started in 2013 with the trading of Schneider, 2014 trading of Luongo and Kesler 25th finish. etc. We will be heading into year 6 with another top 5 pick from the 2018 draft.I'm a Sabres fan. Be careful what you wish for when calling for a complete tank and rebuild. It can be much longer and painful than the tank commanders think.
Excellent. You really get what's likely going on below the surface, there aren't many of us here. I was just last night reading some of Dave Nonis thoughts on Aquilini's leadership style from 2009. Nonis paints him as a temperamental, constantly meddling tyrant prone to loud screaming fits and tantrums and impulsive ultimatums.This thread is an example of why I do not visit that much. The problem is not Benning and Linden. It is the owner. He refuses tom accept the full rebuild we need. The guy believes you can rebuild on the fly and dictating to the guys that they are to build a team that need to be competitive. That is why Erickson for a 6 year 36mill contract, Gagner got a 3 year 9.6 contract and MDZ got 2 year 6 mill--the owner dictated it. Sadly I think we may need to sink to a new hell to get the owner to stop being so hands on and let people do their thing.
Any team can beat another team on any given night in the NHL. That the Canucks beat them a few weeks ago is not meaningful...doubly so when the win was helped by 3 or 4 posts the Preds hit in the third.
What is meaningful is the pathetic display by this team the last handful of games, the previous two years and how after 32 games this season they sit 23rd despite being mostly healthy for the year.
Okay you want the skinny on ownership moves?The owners refuses to accept that a rebuild is needed and he will only hire people who agree with that idea
We were fine two weeks ago because our schedule had been super soft. Lots of people saw this coming.
lmao, please define "fine"google "scapegoat"
we suck so it must be somebody's fault and they need to be punished now.
the fact we were fine two weeks ago does not matter because, "oh look, a birdie!"
Okay you want the skinny on ownership moves?
His kids and relatives were being harassed like crazy due to how the media charged up fan hatred on the Luongo/Schnider thing and drop in the standings.
So he caved in, contacted the guy everyone in Vancouver loved, Linden, and hired him.
Yeah, perfect track record, no top 6 blunders in the draft at all. D R A F T G U R U am I right?his drafting has been excellent thus far —
Refer to this post:From day one, it's so obvious that Benning's tenure has been sunk by ownership interference, an in shambles scouting staff and system he wasn't able to redesign until this year (!)
To add to this, because of how non-transparent the ownership/management of the Canucks have been, I'll entertain the idea that Lindenning is at the mercy of the ownership.
That means:
1) They were okay with signing their contracts knowing they couldn't take the direction they wanted with the team but agreed regardless (a mistake they made).
2) They tried to secure their positions by promising ownership that they COULD rebuild on the fly and make this team competitive in ~2-3 years.
3) They actually HAVE been given the freedom and autonomy to do what they want but are just genuinely terrible at their jobs.
Let's say either three is a possibility, how would someone still want them around knowing they either have no spines, no direction or no idea how to manage a hockey team?
Yeah, good thing Benning knows exactly how to salvage a key player that wanted out of the team in Kesler. Just look at what he turned that into!! Sutter and Gudbranson!! What a GM!(who was thankfully developed marvelously by Benning and Desjardins in order to salvage something out of the Luongo/Schneider fiasco)
Hollow statement but I guess we'll see.An impossible situation, but one where Benning I think has ultimately done a very fine job. Unlike Gillis, this is a man who will be immediately scooped up by another organization should he be unfairly fired.
we played nashville on the road three weeks ago and beat them as the only team to have beaten them at home this year. i guess that was super soft nashville.
Yup, clearly a poor team must always lose to good teams and playing one good team invalidates the fact that the schedule as a whole was easy. The Canucks were just treading water on an easy schedule, with decent injury luck, and with several players clearly playing over their heads. If you didn't expect a hard regression, then you were very naive about the team's chances.we played nashville on the road three weeks ago and beat them as the only team to have beaten them at home this year. i guess that was super soft nashville.