LD Miro Heiskanen - IFK Helsinki, Liiga (2017, 3rd, DAL)

[cgf]

Agreed. I doubt Dallas passes on him and i 100% guarantee if he is there that the Avs take him

Far from a guarantee that the Avs take him even if he's available and there's no Duchene trade on the horizon to add the finishing touches to the Avs defensive rebuild. The organization has repeatedly shown a preference for taking forwards at the top of the draft and selecting dmen in the later first/early second.

 

[masinaLFC]

Far from a guarantee that the Avs take him even if he's available and there's no Duchene trade on the horizon to add the finishing touches to the Avs defensive rebuild. The organization has repeatedly shown a preference for taking forwards at the top of the draft and selecting dmen in the later first/early second.

And it works brilliantly

 

[cgf]

And it works brilliantly

*shrug* I was talking about what was likely, not what was smartest.

That said, if the avs can snag a Sergachev or Hanifin for Duchene/Landeskog this summer then the D will be well on its way towards becoming a strength with that guy, Zadorov, Bigras & Boikov/Lindholm on the left; and EJ, Barrie, Meloche, & Mironov/Clurman on the right.

 

[IceManCat]

The Avs don't have much chemistry in their line up I think it would be best to select a playmaking forward like Mittlestadt who can create some chemistry up front with Mackinnon. The Avs core players don't have anyone to play with. They need that just as much as they need a d-man.

 

[oconnor9sean]

That quick-release snipe @ 2:30 was really impressive

 

[BB88]

The Avs don't have much chemistry in their line up I think it would be best to select a playmaking forward like Mittlestadt who can create some chemistry up front with Mackinnon. The Avs core players don't have anyone to play with. They need that just as much as they need a d-man.

Mackinnon- Rants
Landeskog- Jost

is a pretty good sounding top4 forward core. Forward group needs quality depth but the defense could use a leader to go with that forward core.

 

[razor ray]

Here are a few recent reads on Miro:

http://www.wingingitinmotown.com/20...ng-up-in-2017-nhl-draft-to-get-miro-heiskanen

http://www.vancourier.com/pass-it-to-bulis/should-the-canucks-draft-miro-heiskanen-1.20007581

http://www.defendingbigd.com/2017/5...pect-profile-miro-heiskanen-dbd-wjc-iihf-u18s

https://blackoutdallas.com/2017/05/17/dallas-stars-miro-heiskanen-third/

 

[Oan]

So how did Heiskanen fare at the Combine? He is the best d prospect this year after all.

 

[Martinez]

So how does he stack up against these guys in their draft years?
Juolevi
Serg
Bean

Noah
Provorov
Werenski

 

[sanitysrequiem]

So how does he stack up against these guys in their draft years?
Juolevi
Serg
Bean

Noah
Provorov
Werenski

Around on par with Juolevi, slightly better than Serg and much better than Bean.

Worse than all the 2015s.

 

[BB88]

Around on par with Juolevi, slightly better than Serg and much better than Bean.

Worse than all the 2015s.

Better than Juolevi, worse than Werenski.

 

[jnk96]

So how does he stack up against these guys in their draft years?
Juolevi
Serg
Bean

Noah
Provorov
Werenski

Werenski
Provorov
Heiskanen/Hanifin
Juolevi
Sergachev
Bean

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

So how did Heiskanen fare at the Combine? He is the best d prospect this year after all.

*Safest.

Makar seems to be the best D prospect in this draft.

 

[sanitysrequiem]

Werenski
Provorov
Heiskanen/Hanifin
Juolevi
Sergachev
Bean

Hanifin was much more hyped in his draft year than werenski or provorov.

 

[StayAtHomeAv]

*Safest.

Makar seems to be the best D prospect in this draft.

If by best you mean most overhyped, then you are correct.

 

[JohnnyHockey]

*Safest.

Makar seems to be the best D prospect in this draft.

I concede he's arguably the best skater among the defensemen this year, but that doesn't make him the best defensive prospect. For starters his system basically let him play as a 4th forward. I'm not as harsh on him for playing in the AJHL, but I need to see more of him defensively shutting people down. Maybe that's my fault for watching bad film, but I have concerns.

 

[Daximus]

I concede he's arguably the best skater among the defensemen this year, but that doesn't make him the best defensive prospect. For starters his system basically let him play as a 4th forward. I'm not as harsh on him for playing in the AJHL, but I need to see more of him defensively shutting people down. Maybe that's my fault for watching bad film, but I have concerns.

Would have to agree. Heiskanen has proven a lot more at a higher level.

 

[Daximus]

So how does he stack up against these guys in their draft years?
Juolevi
Serg
Bean

Noah
Provorov
Werenski

Provorov
Werenski
Chychrun
Sergachev
Heiskanen
Hanifin
Juolevi
Bean

Is my guess at how they stack up a few years down the road.

 

[AvsCOL]

Provorov (2)
Werenski (1)
Chychrun (6)
Sergachev (5)
Heiskanen (4)
Hanifin (3)
Juolevi (7)
Bean (8)

Is my guess at how they stack up a few years down the road.

Just my opinion.

 

[jnk96]

Hanifin was much more hyped in his draft year than werenski or provorov.

Whoops, read that wrong. In their respective draft years I'd say:

Hanifin
Werenski/Provorov/Heiskanen
Juolevi
Sergachev


Bean

 

[Loffer]

Finland's woes in their D ranks are gonna be history soon as these fine young men with a defensive and offensive acumen alike keep popping up and coming from left and right . The only problem in Finnish system in a few years will be a nagging lack of quality centres after Barky's name has been called. TT and Seabass Aho have some C in them, especially the latter one but their/his strengths are not in the physical side of the game save for surprisingly feisty board battles of Aho.


The goalie situation is or will be an open question also to some extent after the upcoming generation change in that department. But if guys like Heiskanen et al. keep flourishing it will be only a formal deficiency. A marginal note in chronicles praising the new golden era of hockey Finlandese.

 

[derriko]

I think if Dallas goes for need and passes on Vilardi, they are going to regret it down the road.

I do like this guy, but if he is their man, I'd move down 2-5 spots and take one of Miro / Makar / Liljegren / Valimaki / etc who are pretty equal as prospects imo.

Patrick
Hischier

Vilardi

The rest imo.

 

[WhatWhat]

I think if Dallas goes for need and passes on Vilardi, they are going to regret it down the road.

I do like this guy, but if he is their man, I'd move down 2-5 spots and take one of Miro / Makar / Liljegren / Valimaki / etc who are pretty equal as prospects imo.

Patrick
Hischier

Vilardi

The rest imo.

I doubt Heiskanen falls past Colorado. So if Dallas wants him there is no trading down. Also this is me reading into it far far far too much but Dallas social media only posted 2 interviews. One with a local kid and one with Heiskanen. Coincidence? Probably

 

[BB88]

I think if Dallas goes for need and passes on Vilardi, they are going to regret it down the road.

I do like this guy, but if he is their man, I'd move down 2-5 spots and take one of Miro / Makar / Liljegren / Valimaki / etc who are pretty equal as prospects imo.

Patrick
Hischier

Vilardi

The rest imo.

Disagree with the bolded.

Heiskanen has #1D potential.
After combine can't even complain about the size(6'1).

 

[derriko]

Disagree with the bolded.

Heiskanen has #1D potential.
After combine can't even complain about the size(6'1).

Spezza is getting up there in age, and then who takes his spot? Eakin? I like him, but forward depth is almost as much of an issue for the Stars as their d-core.

I just hate when teams use very high picks on needs and not BPA.