Player Discussion Kevin Hayes part II

[One Winged Angel]

Hayes looks great and has really found his place.

 

[True Blue]

Hayes looks great and has really found his place.

Moving Nash off of his line seems to have helped him.

 

[Mach12]

Moving Nash off of his line seems to have helped him.

And Nash. They clearly have no chemistry.

 

[True Blue]

And Nash. They clearly have no chemistry.

True on both ends. Both have picked up their level of play since the move.

 

[FLYLine27*]

10 points in 11 games

7 points in his last 3 games..

WOWZER

 

[nyr2k2]

A reminder that players don't progress on a linear path. Peaks and valleys. Some for Miller and Kreider.

Keep it in mind next season if Vesey or Skjei takes a step back.

 

[darko]

A reminder that players don't progress on a linear path. Peaks and valleys. Some for Miller and Kreider.

Keep it in mind next season if Vesey or Skjei takes a step back.

This.

 

[True Blue]

There was a play where it seemed like he took two strides and was through the neutral zone. If (IF) he has learned how to use his frame in the offensive zone, he can be a handful. He is a big kid who can glide.

 

[Sens]

He's going to be a number one C... 20-25G 65-70Pts with above average defense.

 

[KingDeathMetal]

At some point last season when I said something dumb like "TRADE HAYES!", my Dad told me, "I don't wanna trade Hayes. He has the makings of a young Joe Thornton."

Not saying he's Thornton, but that comparison always stood out to me, especially now, because when Hayes is playing this way that's exactly what he looks like.

Or maybe Hank's comparison, "He reminds me of Jagr."

Hayes to me is someone who can wind up being a really nice 2C or 3C, or he can go further and be a scary good 1C. With Zibanejad and Stepan, we now have two big Power Cs and a high IQ, well-rounded #1C. Possibly have 3 #1Cs right now.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

He's going to be a number one C... 20-25G 65-70Pts with above average defense.

Nah.

Here's a list of centers who scored 20+G and 70+P last year.

Backstrom
Crosby
Kopitar
Kuznetsov
Seguin
Tavares
Paveslki

He's probably a 45-55 point guy

 

[Thirty One]

He's going to be a number one C... 20-25G 65-70Pts with above average defense.

A TRUE and LEGIT number one center gets at least 85 points.

 

[Sens]

A TRUE and LEGIT number one center gets at least 85 points.

Not in today's game... first liners get 60Pts

 

[McRanger]

Not in today's game... first liners get 60Pts

That just means there are less #1 centers in the league. Like last year there was only one #1 center.

We can't dumb the true meaning of a #1 center down just to make you happy.

 

[FLYLine27*]

A TRUE and LEGIT number one center gets at least 85 points.

Maybe if it was still 1980. To say there was only one "true and legit" number one center in the NHL last season (Crosby being the only center who hit 85 points..and not a point over)..is insane.

 

[FLYLine27*]

That just means there are less #1 centers in the league. Like last year there was only one #1 center.

We can't dumb the true meaning of a #1 center down just to make you happy.

The true meaning? Did I miss when the NHL made a ruling on what classifys the definition of what a "true #1 center" is?

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Maybe if it was still 1980. To say there was only one "true and legit" number one center in the NHL last season (Crosby being the only center who hit 85 points..and not a point over)..is insane.

The true meaning? Did I miss when the NHL made a ruling on what classifys the definition of what a "true #1 center" is?

Can't tell if ur being srs

 

[FLYLine27*]

Can't tell if ur being srs

You can't tell if i'm being serious that i think there is more than one true #1 center in the league?

 

[SnowblindNYR]

That just means there are less #1 centers in the league. Like last year there was only one #1 center.

We can't dumb the true meaning of a #1 center down just to make you happy.

Considering how much lower scoring has been in general, maybe it's time to change your definition of what a #1 center is points-wise.

 

[Thirty One]

Considering how much lower scoring has been in general, maybe it's time to change your definition of what a #1 center is points-wise.

Centers should adjust themselves up to our expectations and not the other way around, IMO.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

You can't tell if i'm being serious that i think there is more than one true #1 center in the league?

Obvious sarcasm was obvious.

 

[FLYLine27*]

Obvious sarcasm was obvious.

Still trying to figure out who is being sarcastic...guess not obvious.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Centers should adjust themselves up to our expectations and not the other way around, IMO.

So should we that there no #1 centers because none hit 100 points anymore? It seems like if you use the 80s as the benchmark there are no good players in the NHL anymore. Your cutoff is as arbitrary as 100 points.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Still trying to figure out who is being sarcastic...guess not obvious.

"Like last year there was only one #1 center in the league"

Very much srs

 

[Thirty One]

So should we that there no #1 centers because none hit 100 points anymore? It seems like if you use the 80s as the benchmark there are no good players in the NHL anymore. Your cutoff is as arbitrary as 100 points.

I'm not sure there are good players in the NHL, anymore.