Value of: Jordan Eberle

[ManofSteel55]

Would love to see Eberle end up in Florida to play on that top line with Huberdeau and Barkov. They'll have the cap space, as well as the prospects/players to pull off a deal. Just gotta find something that fits.

Bjugstad fits.

 

[Blue Goose]

Oilers needs a RHD that is an upgrade over Russell..

Edmonton native Alex Petrovic? I want Vegas to take him in the expansion draft (Gallant reunion?), but if not he could be a good choice. They may have to go the Hall/Larsson route again and trade for position of need, removing a high-salary contract and improving team chemistry. Worked last time.

Bjugstad fits.

That's a tough sell. I know Nick had a down year and his value is low, plus there was all that turmoil in the management. I'd like to see Bjugstad get another year in Florida before they entertain the idea of moving him. Plus, you'd only be saving about $2M in cap space.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

lol what are they adding for Kucherov? Draisaitl?

Yeah we can't afford him moving forward. I wouldn't part with Draisaitl and Yzerman if forced to move him would be asking for Poolparty + Nurse + another valuable asset

 

[ManofSteel55]

Edmonton native Alex Petrovic? I want Vegas to take him in the expansion draft (Gallant reunion?), but if not he could be a good choice. They may have to go the Hall/Larsson route again and trade for position of need, removing a high-salary contract and improving team chemistry. Worked last time.



That's a tough sell. I know Nick had a down year and his value is low, plus there was all that turmoil in the management. I'd like to see Bjugstad get another year in Florida before they entertain the idea of moving him. Plus, you'd only be saving about $2M in cap space.

Petrovic would look good, but is useless to us until after the expansion draft, as he would likely get picked over any of our other options.

As per "only" saving that 2 million, I agree - but it fills the 2nd biggest hole on our roster (middle six center), unless they decide to run with Draisaitl as a full time center next year. And at that point, we would need to discuss moving Nuge as well as Ebs.

McDavid-Nuge-Bjugstad-Letestu as our 4 centers would be awesome.

 

[HabsTown]

Habs fan giving Tomas Plekanec + Michael mcCarron

 

[ManofSteel55]

Habs fan giving Tomas Plekanec + Michael mcCarron

No use for Pleks. I like McCarron as a prospect, but would prefer a center.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

I could see potential for a Eberle/Bjugstad swap. Both just had down years but could benefit from changes of scenery.

The only problem I have with a deal like that is that on the surface Bjugstad seems like an ideal candidate, big body C with a right hand shot and goal scoring touch but digging a little deeper it seems that many Panthers fans believe he isn't really suited to play at 3C.

Can any fans chime in on why this is? Is is two way game lacking a bit? Is he not great in the face-off circle?

 

[oilerbear]

Oilers have no room for this guy and would probably have to add to him to unload his terrible contract.

That being said, would any team want him? He's just not a fit for this team at all.

You have to make the playoffs to win a cup.

Anything less than being one of the 2 teams to win a championship.
1 Stanley; Conf Champs
1 Conf Champ.

So we start with reg Season.
You want players who can play PvP (play the other teams best) and break even in Goal differential.

So what has Eberle Done when Healthy?
we Know he has run pvp since 12-13

12-13 (48/82 = .585season)
Running PvP under Krueger
48gm 16G (.333GPG) 21A (.438APG) 37P (.771PPG) -4
converted to full season
82gm 27g 36A 63P -7

13-14 - 14-15
Running PvP under Eakins and MacT
116gm 34G (.293) 51A (.440APG) 85P (.733PPG) -24
-16 per season under Eakins.

14-15
Running PvP under Todd Nelson
45gm 18G (.400GPG) 25A (.556APG) 43P (.956PPG) -3

15-16
Running PvP under Tmac
first 13gm playing with injured Shoulder
13gm 3G (.231GPG) 0A (.000APG) 3P -1Last
Last 56 playing PvP Healthy
56gm 22G (.393GPG) 22A (.393APG) 44P (.786PPg) -1+1

16-17
Running PvP under Tmac
82gm 20G (.244GPG) 31A (.378APG) 51P (.622PPG) +3

PvP HEalthy
138gm 42G (.304GPG) 53A (.384APG) 95P (.688PPG) +2
Coverted to Season pace
82gm 25G 32A 57P +1

So lets look at the forwards who ran
PvP
and
achieved 20G 47P (top 75 Fwds)
(12G-27P in 12-13) (top 35 fwd)

6 season in a row 11-12 to 16-17
Toews C avg 29G a Season; 6yrs @ 10.5M NMC; Age 29 to 34

5 Seasons in a row 12-13 to 16-17
Eberle RW Avg 26G a season; 2yrs @ 6M; Age 27, 28
Wheeler RW Avg 28G per season; 2yr @ 5.6M;
Ladd LW Avg 25G per season; 6yr @ 5.5M;

4yrs in a row 13-14 to 16-17
Benn LW Avg per season; 8yr @ 9.5M NMC; Age 28-35
Kesler C Avg 22G per season; 5yr @ 6.875M ; Age 33-37
Bergeron C Avg 22G per season; 5yr @ 6.875M NMC; Age 32 to 37
Marchand LW Avg 31G per season; 8yr @ 6.125M NMC; Age 29 to 36

3yrs in a row 14-15 to 16-17
Ovechkin LW Avg 45G per season; 4yr @ 9.539M; Age 32-35
Pavelski C Avg 35G per season; 2yr @ 6M; Age 33, 34
Krieder LW Avg 23G per season; 3yr @ 4.625M; Age 26 to 28
Atkinson RW Avg 28G per season; 1yr @ 3.5M; Age 28

2yrs in a row 15-16 to 16-17
O'Rielly C Avg 20G per season; 6yr @ 7.5M; Age 26-31
Schiefle C Avg 30G per season; 7yr @ 6.125M; Age 24-30
Saad LW,RW Avg 27G per season; 4yr @ 6M; Age 25-28
Hall LW Avg 23G per season; 3yr @ 6M; Age 26 to 28
Barkov Avg 24G per season; 5yr @ 5.9M; Age 22-26
Trochek Avg 24G per season; 5yr @ 4.75M; Age 24 - 28
Henrique Avg 25G per season; 3yr @ 4m; Age 27, 28
Silverberg Avg 21G per season; 2yr @ 3.75M; Age 27,28
Oshie Avg 29G per season; UFA; Age 29

we have to unload him in a PKG:
one of the 3 longest running 20G PvP wingers in the game!
The guy has Avg 23G per season and Even goal diferential facing the other teams best under Nelson and Tmac.

Who are we suppose to replace that RW PvP Goal production with?

Talk about a complete Lack of understanding of Goal production.

As the origionator of 5 of the most critical hockey analytics theories.
And
a big believer in the Belichek way.

You want top end repetition of production in the toughest situations possible, who as they age can revert to softer comp roles.

Eberle got to face 2nd comp level in 11-12 under Renney!
78gm 34g (.436GPG) 42A (.538APG) 76p (.978PPG) +4 on a -27 Team.

Quite Frankly I grow tired of Sportsnets and TSN owned by the Toronto Maple leafs tampering with the reputation of our players!
They outright lie about our players.

Get rid of Eberle.

 

[CodeE]

You heard it here folks. Andrew Ladd's PVP production leaves scrubs like Jamie Benn and Alex Ovechkin wishing they have five seasons in the row of whatever stat oilerbear has deemed important today.

P.S. Brock Nelson+ for Eberle? Edmonton clears cap and gets a 3rd line center who can provide scoring depth?

 

[belair]

You heard it here folks. Andrew Ladd's PVP production leaves scrubs like Jamie Benn and Alex Ovechkin wishing they have five seasons in the row of whatever stat oilerbear has deemed important today.

P.S. Brock Nelson+ for Eberle? Edmonton clears cap and gets a 3rd line center who can provide scoring depth?

I'd prefer Strome. Right handed shot, younger than Nelson, brother of McDavid's bud from Erie, likely on the outs with NYI. Same proposal as before. It works from both sides.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

You heard it here folks. Andrew Ladd's PVP production leaves scrubs like Jamie Benn and Alex Ovechkin wishing they have five seasons in the row of whatever stat oilerbear has deemed important today.

P.S. Brock Nelson+ for Eberle? Edmonton clears cap and gets a 3rd line center who can provide scoring depth?

You actually read it?

 

[Sabresruletheschool]

I just searched up Ennis' stats... wtf happened to that guy

He got a concussion. Came back to soon and got another one. He came back this year about 30 games in and looked pretty bad. He started picking it up towards the end of the season but he's questionable. People are hoping he gets back to where he was but who knows. He's probably to much of a gamble for a team to take a chance on right now

 

[OnTheBrink]

You heard it here folks. Andrew Ladd's PVP production leaves scrubs like Jamie Benn and Alex Ovechkin wishing they have five seasons in the row of whatever stat oilerbear has deemed important today.

P.S. Brock Nelson+ for Eberle? Edmonton clears cap and gets a 3rd line center who can provide scoring depth?

I could probably get behind this deal depending on the "+" what you have in mind?

 

[Arturs Irbe]

I could probably get behind this deal depending on the "+" what you have in mind?

Nelson + Hamonic

Eberle + 1st + dump

 

[Beautvillier]

Nelson + Hamonic

Eberle + 1st + dump

nope

 

[Arturs Irbe]

nope

What would the Oilers have to add?

 

[Beautvillier]

What would the Oilers have to add?

we dont want to take on cap and hamonic alone would probably get eberle+ if we were to move him

 

[Vatican Roulette]

Eberle for Eakin?

 

[MDCSL]

I could see potential for a Eberle/Bjugstad swap. Both just had down years but could benefit from changes of scenery.

The only problem I have with a deal like that is that on the surface Bjugstad seems like an ideal candidate, big body C with a right hand shot and goal scoring touch but digging a little deeper it seems that many Panthers fans believe he isn't really suited to play at 3C.

Can any fans chime in on why this is? Is is two way game lacking a bit? Is he not great in the face-off circle?

Seems to me like we could probably sign Boyle to a 4 year deal and have a better 3rd line center and still get something for ebs.

 

[La Bamba]

Eberle for Eakin?

I'm a fan of having Eberle gone but trading him for a 12 pt centerman is not a good way to improve the team

 

[mrinsane]

Habs could use Eberle probably.

 

[Bcap88]

Kovalchuk with some salary retained by edm?

 

[ManofSteel55]

Kovalchuk with some salary retained by edm?

Probably not. Depends on the contract that Kovy wants.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Eberle for Eakin?

I think Eakin will rebound somewhere, but his value is closer to a mid round pick at this point.

 

[Vatican Roulette]

I think Eakin will rebound somewhere, but his value is closer to a mid round pick at this point.

Ok, could Dallas add anything to get Eberle?