Injury Report: Jonathan Quick Injury Thread

[Haik]

This why you don't do people favors when your the Boss. DL should have just told Bernier sorry but you will get your turn in RFA or FA. He blew it and he knows it.

Bernier was a RFA and he wasn't signing with us. He would've held out until Dean traded him. Get over it

 

[etherialone]

Now it's 4 to 6 weeks? I'd say that's significantly more concerning than the 2-3 weeks that was predicted earlier in this thread.

I still am hopeful that it will turn out to be 3 weeks but feel that what I had heard and posted "more than a couple of weeks" will end up being accurate.

 

[Thrice]

I still am hopeful that it will turn out to be 3 weeks but feel that what I had heard and posted "more than a couple of weeks" will end up being accurate.

I hope this turns out to be the case because I think Scrivens can hold down the fort for 3 weeks (12 games) but anything significantly longer than that and we're really pressing our luck.

 

[etherialone]

I hope this turns out to be the case because I think Scrivens can hold down the fort for 3 weeks (12 games) but anything significantly longer than that and we're really pressing our luck.

I agree. I like Scrivens but am not sold on him being a long term solution. 12 games with 1 or 2 going to Jones would be about as far as I would push it too. Here's to hoping that JQ makes it back ahead of schedule or that my lack of faith in Scrivens as a more long term solution are wrong.

 

[tsanuri]

When you look at are schedule it would be 13 games at 4 weeks and 14 games a 4 weeks +1 day.

 

[Rusty Batch]

Scrivens cant do any worse then what quicks done this year.

 

[HYORI 1963]

I hope this turns out to be the case because I think Scrivens can hold down the fort for 3 weeks (12 games) but anything significantly longer than that and we're really pressing our luck.

Where's the logic in your argument? Why 3 weeks and not 2, 4, 5 or 6 weeks?

 

[Omni Owl]

All's I'm sayin is don't mess up one of the best Kings goalies ever and rush him back. He's too good of a goalie to just throw back and needs to have a vibrant career. Scrivens will more than hold his own I'm sure.

 

[Thrice]

Where's the logic in your argument? Why 3 weeks and not 2, 4, 5 or 6 weeks?

Over a long enough timeline, an average back up goalie (which Scrivens is) starts to play like a back up goalie, due to over-exposure. I think Scrivens is probably good enough to maintain average NHL starting goaltending for the span of time that TG estimated, 3 weeks. Maybe he'll be good enough for 2 weeks or maybe he'll be good for 4 weeks. It's impossible to accurately predict but adding a 4th week (3 more games) then a 5th week (3 more games) and a 6th week (3 more games) is all but assuring the limitations in Scrivens game will be showcased.

 

[Tadite]

Over a long enough timeline, an average back up goalie (which Scrivens is) starts to play like a back up goalie, due to over-exposure. I think Scrivens is probably good enough to maintain average NHL starting goaltending for the span of time that TG estimated, 3 weeks. Maybe he'll be good enough for 2 weeks or maybe he'll be good for 4 weeks. It's impossible to accurately predict but adding a 4th week (3 more games) then a 5th week (3 more games) and a 6th week (3 more games) is all but assuring the limitations in Scrivens game will be showcased.

I'm in total agreement. Scrivens is fine for 10-15 games a season he isn't good enough to be a number one. It's just so clear he isn't in the same league as Bernier or Quick. Doesn't have Berniers calmness and positioning or even close to Quicks athleticism.

If some of the larger numbers for Quick turn out to be true (6+ weeks or even two months) we're going to be in a bit of trouble (what is that? 20-30 games?). That's also ignoring the time needed to get back to full speed. I'm not sure Jones has the ceiling for a starter and that's a lot to ask for a 23 year old rookie.

Teams got to double down on defense. We've been shaky and we don't have a goalie that can steal games.

 

[Trolfoli]

Well... Was messing around on capgeek and it would appear that if Stoll/Clifford were moved (with other injuries coming back Carter/Greene) There would be enough cap space to sign Miller at 50%. Could run 1 extra forward, 1 extra D and 3 Goalies.

Pros: Miller until Kings get a healthy Quick back, (no need to rush) then they fight over starting spot/Olympics. Scrivens is doing great, but some reports have Quick out a possible 6+ weeks.

Cons:
-Cost to acquire Miller. Start at Clifford/Stoll for cap reasons, at least a 1st...
-At end of the season Kings have 3 goalies, 2 needing contracts and Miller/Quick tandem from a monetary stand point is probably not workable. Sorting out this mess means Miller could just be a rental for the rest of this year. Which really limits how much the Kings can pay.

Just got a case of crazy delivered and don't have anything better to do at this hour.

 

[takk]

I'd prefer Hiller as a rental over Miller. Hiller is at the twilight of his career, has some health issues though still would be an adequate backup to keep Quick worry about his starting job if he re-signs. Also, he'd keep living in same area. The question is, what pieces from us would tempt Ducks? The pick from Toronto and a prospect like Sabourin is what I'd be willing to give for him easily. Yeah I know it's Anaheim, but Hiller looks to me as a really decent option. I'm also a big fan of his flashy style.

 

[funky]

Let Scrivens have 2 bad games in a row before we start worrying. Rather have money at the deadline to fill a real need

 

[Frolov 6'3]

What has happened, did I miss a game ? Did Scrivens allow 6 goals ?


I just checked, seems like the Kings play 7.00 PM ET. I seriously thought I had missed the game vs the Rangers after reading the last few posts. Unbelievable.

Scrivens is playing really well and people here are willing up to give up cap space and assets.

 

[Basilisk]

Miller & Hiller? Seriously?! I wanna throw things at you guys.....

 

[HYORI 1963]

Miller & Hiller? Seriously?! I wanna throw things at you guys.....

lol.

I hope you're a good shot.

 

[Fishhead]

The difference between Scrivens/Hiller in our system is going to be marginal at best, and I personally think Hiller is a step down from Scrivens. I won't even mention Miller because he's not getting acquired.

The Kings are one of the best in the league at clearing out 2nd chances and limiting outnumbered attacks. No way are assets going to be given up when we have a perfectly capable guy in Scrivens. He's put up great numbers so far, and he hasn't even played at home yet.

 

[takk]

Oh, I'm absolutely content with Scrivens' play as of late. I don't know the exact timetable but I'm guessing Quick won't return after about 15 games or so and that is a long enough stretch to compel the Scrivens/Jones tandem. I'm just saying it won't hurt to take a glance at some of the options and there is one very near in Hiller, that's all.

 

[HYORI 1963]

Oh, I'm absolutely content with Scrivens' play as of late. I don't know the exact timetable but I'm guessing Quick won't return after about 15 games or so and that is a long enough stretch to compel the Scrivens/Jones tandem. I'm just saying it won't hurt to take a glance at some of the options and there is one very near in Hiller, that's all.

What do you mean of late??? Quick's only been out the last two games.

And have you even considered how much Hiller is making?

 

[takk]

As of late means two games, but he's been good generally this season.

About Hiller, I'm aware it's a reach, probably even a pipe dream. But he's a better option than Miller.

 

[takk]

If only Bryz stayed on the market one more week, I'm somewhat sure DL would consider going after him after what happened to Quick. He wasn't gonna demand much and playing for a good team after years would motivate him.

 

[fyrescorp]

Scrivens will be fine. He has played 51 games in 2011-2012 between the Marlies and the Leafs. Dude has 2 shutouts in what, 3 starts?

Hiller? No way. I wouldn't want to give anything to Anaheim for him. Don't want to help them at all. Ever.

Miller. Not a chance.

Bryz? Seriously?

 

[Captain Mittens*]

If only Bryz stayed on the market one more week, I'm somewhat sure DL would consider going after him after what happened to Quick.

DL could have had him for free on waivers a few years ago and didn't pick him up. He doesn't want him

 

[HYORI 1963]

DL could have had him for free on waivers a few years ago and didn't pick him up. He doesn't want him

Actually, DL did want him. Phoenix just beat us to it.

 

[HYORI 1963]

If only Bryz stayed on the market one more week, I'm somewhat sure DL would consider going after him after what happened to Quick. He wasn't gonna demand much and playing for a good team after years would motivate him.

While I strongly disagree with the acquisitions of either Miller or Hiller, I do agree that Lombardi probably would have picked up Bryz, and I believe that he would have been a solid pickup.