Value of: Jesse Puljujärvi

[ChaoticOrange]

Scherbak + Armia for Puljujarvi + 3 pick 2019

Are Scherbak and Puljujarvi somehow equal level assets in your eyes? Because... wow.

No.

 

[Mike Dukarm]

Are Scherbak and Puljujarvi somehow equal level assets in your eyes? Because... wow.

No.

With Armia.. yes

 

[ChaoticOrange]

With Armia.. yes

Armia’s worth a third. Maybe a tiny touch more. Puljujarvi >>>>> Scherbak.

 

[Mike Dukarm]

Armia’s worth a third. Maybe a tiny touch more. Puljujarvi >>>>> Scherbak.

I can adjust for the third pick... négociation...

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I can adjust for the third pick... négociation...

Nope. It’s a flawed base. Not worth negotiating. We have roughly ten bottom six forwards. We have zero need for more of them.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

So if we’re talking a deal with the canes what are we looking at here? One of Fleury, Fox, Bean, Mckeown as the base and then a pick to even it out? Depending on the Dman, the pick goes up or down. Don’t think Carolina’s 1st is in play but Buffalos 2nd could be.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

So if we’re talking a deal with the canes what are we looking at here? One of Fleury, Fox, Bean, Mckeown as the base and then a pick to even it out? Depending on the Dman, the pick goes up or down. Don’t think Carolina’s 1st is in play but Buffalos 2nd could be.

Not really interested in any of them as a base to be honest, but let’s say for fun one of Kuokkanen/Roy/Zykov + one of Bean/Fox and add a pick or whatever to Edmonton to even it out depending on the forward and the dman.

I’ve been down on Fleury for a long time, he’s got ‘career peak of Kris Russell’ written all over him. I never saw him as particularly good even as a WHLer.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Not really interested in any of them as a base to be honest, but let’s say for fun one of Kuokkanen/Roy/Zykov + one of Bean/Fox and add a pick or whatever to Edmonton to even it out depending on the forward and the dman.

I’ve been down on Fleury for a long time, he’s got ‘career peak of Kris Russell’ written all over him. I never saw him as particularly good even as a WHLer.

I think two of those pieces plus a pick is a bit of an overpay but I can see why Edmonton would want that. Would also depend on the pick too I suppose. I really like Zykov's game and Roy is one of those classic power forward types that needs time to grow and then could explode.

The only reason I put Fleury and McKeown's name in the mix is because I thought EDM would want to target defence but I guess it would make sense to try to get a D and forward back to fill JP's spot as well.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I think two of those pieces plus a pick is a bit of an overpay but I can see why Edmonton would want that. Would also depend on the pick too I suppose. I really like Zykov's game and Roy is one of those classic power forward types that needs time to grow and then could explode.

The only reason I put Fleury and McKeown's name in the mix is because I thought EDM would want to target defence but I guess it would make sense to try to get a D and forward back to fill JP's spot as well.

You misunderstood me - depending on the pieces coming back the pick would be on our side.

Our defence is actually not bad and we have good pieces still to come. The bigger issue is forward depth.

 

[TFHockey]

So if we’re talking a deal with the canes what are we looking at here? One of Fleury, Fox, Bean, Mckeown as the base and then a pick to even it out? Depending on the Dman, the pick goes up or down. Don’t think Carolina’s 1st is in play but Buffalos 2nd could be.

I hear good things about these two players. Have you watched them extensively? What is your evaluation of each?

 

[yababy]

Nobody was talking about getting rid of RNH's salary. I post here all the time and see stupid stuff in our forums often, but nobody is suggesting that. He's an incredibly useful and versatile player. You are just flat out way off and wrong!!!

It's all over this thread, and others. Take your Homer glasses off

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/ryan-nugent-hopkins-trade-possibilities.2388917/

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

You misunderstood me - depending on the pieces coming back the pick would be on our side.

Our defence is actually not bad and we have good pieces still to come. The bigger issue is forward depth.

Oh, sorry. My bad. When you said add a pick or whatever to EDM to even it out I thought you were saying 2 players + pick. Definitely closer then. Do you have a preference on any of those players you mentioned?

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

I hear good things about these two players. Have you watched them extensively? What is your evaluation of each?

I haven't seen much of them to be honest. I barely get a chance to watch much more than Hurricanes highlights with my work schedule. I hear good things as well though. Maybe some other fans can chime in.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Ceci for Puljujarvi 1 for 1

 

[paragon]

Late 2nd round pick.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Ceci for Puljujarvi 1 for 1

Brown for Russell 1 for 1

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Oh, sorry. My bad. When you said add a pick or whatever to EDM to even it out I thought you were saying 2 players + pick. Definitely closer then. Do you have a preference on any of those players you mentioned?

Hard to say really. Kuokkanen seems like the most versatile but Zykov probably meets the biggest need.

Let’s call it Zykov/Kuokkanen and Bean (since we have Bouchard and Bear already)

 

[belair]

It's all over this thread, and others. Take your Homer glasses off

https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/ryan-nugent-hopkins-trade-possibilities.2388917/

What's in that thread? Fans of other teams lowballing one of our assets and a number of posters explaining why we won't trade them? This seems like a similar thread.

Thanks for digging up that thread though. I like seeing old posts where I tell the future.

 

[DoobieDubas]

Havent read through the whole thread so sorry if it has been asked before. To the main oilers fans on here that i see alot, What from the maple leafs would you guys think is fair value for JP?

BTW I personally dont agree with the posters on here i like JP's potential.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Havent read through the whole thread so sorry if it has been asked before. To the main oilers fans on here that i see alot, What from the maple leafs would you guys think is fair value for JP?

BTW I personally dont agree with the posters on here i like JP's potential.

I don’t think you’d like it, honestly. Would need to be Kapanen at absolute least... and I’m not honestly sure Kap has more value. He’s two years older and has been no more productive at this level without being spoon fed excellent linemates.

I’m sure you’d offer Brown, or a collection of lesser prospects. Maybe even your first. However, We don’t need longshots or bottom sixers.

 

[Habby4Life]

Puljujarvi is worth maybe a late second round or third round pick at best. I bet he is in the KHL in three years. Another Yakupov.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Puljujarvi is worth maybe a late second round or third round pick at best. I bet he is in the KHL in three years. Another Yakupov.

This is such a brutal take.

Meaning Scherbak is worth, what, future considerations?

 

[Habby4Life]

Are Scherbak and Puljujarvi somehow equal level assets in your eyes? Because... wow.

No.

Yes they are because the are both busts. A bust is a bust whether the kid was drafted 26th or 4th overall.

 

[Habby4Life]

This is such a brutal take.

Meaning Scherbak is worth, what, future considerations?

Sherbak is worth less, a third of a 4th. Not much difference between them now

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Yes they are because the are both busts. A bust is a bust whether the kid was drafted 26th or 4th overall.

One is 22, the other is 20. Are Logan Brown or Michael McLeod busts? How about Bellows?