Blue Jays Discussion: Jays host wild-card game vs BAL....Stroman Starts

[kfernandes29]

Anyone know a reliable place online to pick up some tickets today? (Not named stub hub, vividseats or ticketmaster)

 

[keslerburrows]

So stoked for this game. Love walking around campus here in Victoria BC and seeing all the Jays jerseys. The passion is real over here, can't imagine the scene in the 6. Lets rock tonight!!!!

 

[ShaneFalco]

"BATTING THIRD: JOSHHHHHHHHH.........thole"

Music to my ears!

 

[theaub]

Is the roof being open even an advantage? Its way louder in there when its closed.

 

[keslerburrows]

Is the roof being open even an advantage? Its way louder in there when its closed.

We are 34-16 with the roof open this year.

 

[theaub]

Was looking for that stat and could only find day/night splits cool

 

[JoeyBeans]

is the roof being open even an advantage? Its way louder in there when its closed.

34-16

 

[theaub]

 

[Mach85]

Stroman's career IP 361.2, ERA 3.91, FIP 3.38

Pineda's career IP 583.2, ERA 3.99, FIP 3.42

I don't think it's fair to call Pineda an FIP overachiever and not Stroman when both have recorded significantly higher ERA compare to their FIP thus far in their careers. Also, Stroman has significantly underachieved his FIP for both the 2014 and 2016 season so I wouldn't say this has went on with him for just one awful stretch. I am well aware that it takes years for FIP to stabilize but in Stroman's case, there is good reason to believe that his ERA will likely be higher than his FIP due to his inability to induce in field fly outs (which unlike other "balls in play results" are pretty much automatic outs and is not dependent on the defence).

Too early in Stroman's career to call him a FIP overachiever. The rule of thumb used at Fangraphs is at least 3 full seasons of starting.

 

[Glenn Isildur Healy]

Anyone know a reliable place online to pick up some tickets today? (Not named stub hub, vividseats or ticketmaster)

Kijiji

 

[lebdafor norris]

Too early in Stroman's career to call him a FIP overachiever. The rule of thumb used at Fangraphs is at least 3 full seasons of starting.

I already mentioned that in my post.

 

[deletethis]

Kijiji

You might as well burn your money.

 

[theaub]

Yeah for a game like this I'd pay the premium for some insurance

 

[ACC1224]

Anyone know a reliable place online to pick up some tickets today? (Not named stub hub, vividseats or ticketmaster)

You're just asking to get ripped off.

 

[zeke]

Stroman's career IP 361.2, ERA 3.91, FIP 3.38

Pineda's career IP 583.2, ERA 3.99, FIP 3.42

I don't think it's fair to call Pineda an FIP overachiever and not Stroman when both have recorded significantly higher ERA compare to their FIP thus far in their careers. Also, Stroman has significantly underachieved his FIP for both the 2014 and 2016 season so I wouldn't say this has went on with him for just one awful stretch. I am well aware that it takes years for FIP to stabilize but in Stroman's case, there is good reason to believe that his ERA will likely be higher than his FIP due to his inability to induce in field fly outs (which unlike other "balls in play results" are pretty much automatic outs and is not dependent on the defence).

eh, so far stro's only had a blip where his era was out of whack with his fip. you expect blips. but that's not near enough to call him a fip underachiever yet.

as for his batted ball mix it's near identical to Sanchez', and Sanchez has been a big fip overachiever so far.

 

[zeke]

clearly Josh should be batting 9th, becuz matchups.

 

[Mach85]

I already mentioned that in my post.

Right, so I'm saying we don't have near enough data to do anything but throw out wild guesses. Stroman's had a period of bad BABIP luck that we could expect to normalize. There are other pitchers with lower IFFB% that aren't chronic FIP overachievers, and infield flies have been found to be recorded improperly by statscast (so it may not be a trustworthy stat).

But my point is we don't have enough data on Stroman - those IFFBs could go up a couple % points in another 300 innings pretty easily, or they could stay the same. It's just too soon.

 

[janesy12]

Never. Anything that confuses posters that weren't around prior to Aug 1 2015 is important,IMO.

This made me LOL...
If you can't remember Brad Fullmer and his 17 inch pythons enjoy the trip!

 

[Discoverer]

This made me LOL...
If you can't remember Brad Fullmer and his 17 inch pythons enjoy the trip!

Despite the lack of team success, I have fond memories of those early-2000's teams.

 

[theaub]

That 2000 team where pretty much everyone hit 20 HR was awesome.

And IIRC even though they finished .500 they were only 4-5 games out of first.

 

[Lebanese Leaf]

Despite the lack of team success, I have fond memories of those early-2000's teams.

Same. Carlos Delgado deserved so much better.

 

[King Mapes]

That 2000 team where pretty much everyone hit 20 HR was awesome.

And IIRC even though they finished .500 they were only 4-5 games out of first.

Our team on paper seemed so good. I loved the late 90s-early 2000 teams despite our struggles. After that though we really stunk Being a Leafs, Raps and Jays fan back then was pretty sweet.

The 2001 Raps team I thought could win, the 2002 Leafs and I thought Jays could make the playoffs.

 

[bunjay]

I think the person we all remember most fondly was Halladay. Talk about deserving better. The guy was a one-man win machine.

 

[ShaneFalco]

 

[ShaneFalco]