Blue Jays Discussion: Jays host wild-card game vs BAL....Stroman Starts
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Leaftors
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YeahKassian: You said judges don't apply the same logic to two situations. Judges apply the same logic to two similar situations ALL the time, it's what's called precedent. Jose sliding is a baseball play, Severino doing what the Jays thought was intentionally throwing at Donaldson was a baseball play. Those are two similar situations that you're applying different logic to.
And again, you're inferring that a pitch "got away" from Severino and not that he threw at Donaldson on purpose, when the Jays have not retaliated the other times he's been hit. We don't know if the pitch was intentional or not, but if we're going on "expert" opinion, the players on the field have the more believable testimony than yours, so you really can't keep bringing that up to support your argument.
And again, you're inferring that a pitch "got away" from Severino and not that he threw at Donaldson on purpose, when the Jays have not retaliated the other times he's been hit. We don't know if the pitch was intentional or not, but if we're going on "expert" opinion, the players on the field have the more believable testimony than yours, so you really can't keep bringing that up to support your argument.
Loosie
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YeahKassian, you were trying to say "what if's" don't count towards Donaldson not being injured by the HBP, but then claiming that Bautista 'could have' injured Odor. That's what people are calling you out on.
He wasn't crowding the plate there. I have said multiple times that the pitch got away. Not sure what more I can say. In my defense I did think he was closer than that, was mistaken. Ive seen a bunch of Sevs starts this year, and let me tell you, the guy is awful. He has no idea where the pitch is going a lot of the time.
So is making hard, aggressive slides at the second baseman. Both Severino, who came too far inside and hit the batter, and Bautista, who slide late, went a bit too far.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/shows/tim-a..._id=1617087&xp=3020281&up=2&vid=5144107264001
guess these boys are wrong then.
guess these boys are wrong then.
Wouldn't be the first time. Sid Seixeiro isn't exactly a venerated baseball reporter. *loud noises* about sums up his arguments.
You win. I will bow out. All I was saying is no need for a brawl in this situation. That's all I was saying. In my opinion, it wasn't on purpose. Good luck the rest of the way.
I wasn't trying to win anything with that comment, I just think those guys are the worst.
Diamond Joe Quimby
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Agreed. An archetype of the moronic fan who's volume level is about ten times higher than their knowledge of the sport their yelling about.
Bats slid late and completely overshot 2nd base. I'm surprised he didn't hit the skin. I can see what pissed off oder. Especially with the new rule.
That being said last year in the play offs.. the umpiring for inside pitches and hit by pitch was all pretty wobbly but that also falls into rapport with the umpires over the season and beyond.
I'm comming in late sorry.
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ShaneFalco
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Loosie
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WC have Sanchez pitch, and then have Happ ready for GM #1 of the DS.
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The Yankees seem to be more pissed at the fact the Jays all but ended whatever slim playoff hopes they had, more than anything else. That this is getting play in the (national U.S.) media is just a reflection of the Yankees popularity.
It's pretty funny. One US analyst called the Jays a bunch of "little crybabies" but who exactly is crying about all this? The Yankees are the ones whining about the Jays swagger, the Yankees are the ones who resorted to childish taunts, and the Yankees are the ones who spent most of the 4-game set arguing with the umpires. In fact, Stroman's words ("Yep. That's a strike") -- that have courted so much controversy -- were directed at Sanchez after he got caught looking at an obvious strike and was arguing with the umpire over it. Maybe if the Yankees had an understanding of the strike zone, they wouldn't be getting shut out, what is it, 6 times in the month of September? By contrast, the Jays have, ironically, taken this pretty well in stride, notwithstanding the two injuries suffered as a result of the shenanigans.
It's pretty funny. One US analyst called the Jays a bunch of "little crybabies" but who exactly is crying about all this? The Yankees are the ones whining about the Jays swagger, the Yankees are the ones who resorted to childish taunts, and the Yankees are the ones who spent most of the 4-game set arguing with the umpires. In fact, Stroman's words ("Yep. That's a strike") -- that have courted so much controversy -- were directed at Sanchez after he got caught looking at an obvious strike and was arguing with the umpire over it. Maybe if the Yankees had an understanding of the strike zone, they wouldn't be getting shut out, what is it, 6 times in the month of September? By contrast, the Jays have, ironically, taken this pretty well in stride, notwithstanding the two injuries suffered as a result of the shenanigans.
ShaneFalco
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I'm actually tired of hearing Blair et al say how stupid the whole thing was.
Whatever. These games are tense and emotional. Things happen at the moment. They don't respond and "there must trouble in the club-house"
Time to move on........
Whatever. These games are tense and emotional. Things happen at the moment. They don't respond and "there must trouble in the club-house"
Time to move on........
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Muston Atthews
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It's pretty obvious by looking at him that Jeff Blair hasn't played a competitive sport in his life
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