Prospect Info: Jacob De La Rose

[Mr. Hab]

Well, that's an idea (DLR as a dman). A little out of the box kind of thinking, but who knows? If the guy really has zero offensive upside, might as well try that.

We drafted Markov as a center, too.

Markov was a center (forgot about that).

Seems like all Hab fans agree on DLR's defensive game (reliable/smart) and his good size/height. Maybe he can be a good DEFENSIVE dman for us? (how is his backwards skating?!).

Right now his UPside (offensively) is a poor man's (4th line) version of Jordan Staal (according to most Hab fans)...not great, so maybe try him as a dman? (or else we may lose him to Europe/Sweden League next season). We don't have any LEFTIE defensive specialist dmen...can't hurt to try.

 

[Scintillating10]

everybody was over hyped on Collberg though.

I wouldn't say everybody. A lot knew...he slid to 2nd round

 

[ChemiseBleuHonnete]

I wouldn't say everybody. A lot knew...he slid to 2nd round

Collberg... This one was a true eye opener for me. Reading all the reports made me think he was a future star. Saw 1 game and was laughing, there was no way this player could amount to anything in the pros.

 

[AHShadow]

Markov was a center (forgot about that).

Seems like all Hab fans agree on DLR's defensive game (reliable/smart) and his good size/height. Maybe he can be a good DEFENSIVE dman for us? (how is his backwards skating?!).

Right now his UPside (offensively) is a poor man's (4th line) version of Jordan Staal (according to most Hab fans)...not great, so maybe try him as a dman? (or else we may lose him to Europe/Sweden League next season). We don't have any LEFTIE defensive specialist dmen...can't hurt to try.

When did we convert Markov to D? I don't think Lefebvre or Therrien would have the smarts to try it out, but it can possibly work in theory.

How's his skating? I mean if he's able to move the puck well I think it could work. He'll be a good #5/6D that can move the puck and is good on D. He just won't be able to score.

 

[Team_Spirit]

what a bust

really too bad i guess he stopped working his ass off after his 1st pro year

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Honestly, I had forgotten all about him. I just remember hoping that we'd landed a good two way guy. What's going on with this guy?

 

[MarkovsKnee]

When did we convert Markov to D? I don't think Lefebvre or Therrien would have the smarts to try it out, but it can possibly work in theory.

How's his skating? I mean if he's able to move the puck well I think it could work. He'll be a good #5/6D that can move the puck and is good on D. He just won't be able to score.

We didn't. Markov was drafted as a defenseman. He was converted as a junior player in Russia.

 

[Kunta Kinte]

We didn't. Markov was drafted as a defenseman. He was converted as a junior player in Russia.

Not so sure about that. Pretty sure he was a forward at one point in RSL.

 

[Kunta Kinte]

Ya i was right. He started playing dman with Dynamo he got mvp of the league as his 1st dman stint. He was a forward with khimik.

 

[Ohashi_Jouzu*]

DLR as a dman for us...can it happen? (#6-7dman).
(silly question?!).

Not silly at all, imo. Even just on an AHL level, when you see a guy like Julien Brouillette back in town for a try-out as a LHD, it's obvious that they're onto Plan B/C/D/whatever already so... you'd have to think someone with the size/skill/awareness/work ethic of DLR could do even better. But how high could he make it is the question. I think he has the potential to be at least as good as Hanley, but would that be worth it?

 

[Booky]

Not so sure about that. Pretty sure he was a forward at one point in RSL.

For one calendar year only IIRC
He played his youth hockey on defense
It's not a fair comparison with DLR

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Not so sure about that. Pretty sure he was a forward at one point in RSL.

Markov was never a forward with us, and played as a D at WJC for Russia.

Carbo loved playing D at forward, but that was a temporary thing. I can't recall a Habs forward successfully converting from forward to D by the organization.

 

[Gainesvillain]

I don't see how anyone can call JDLR a "bust". When we drafted him it was pretty clear that he was a defensive specialist with limited offensive upside. He's still that same player.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

He got two apples today anyways. I heard he was actually pretty engaged offensively last game too. I'd give him some time anyways but he definitely has to pick it up.

 

[Doc McKenna]

Collberg... This one was a true eye opener for me. Reading all the reports made me think he was a future star. Saw 1 game and was laughing, there was no way this player could amount to anything in the pros.

Nearly every year we have 3 or four prospects that are sure bet superstars. Yet we rarely see a 2nd liner out of them. I am really hoping sergechev works out, but I have zero faith in him beyond a good 3-4 dman. He SHOULD make that level. Anything else is a bonus. Since being back with the spits...well it seems his confidence is lacking a bit. Hasn't been as good as last season

Should be dominating and isn't.

 

[Doc McKenna]

I don't see how anyone can call JDLR a "bust". When we drafted him it was pretty clear that he was a defensive specialist with limited offensive upside. He's still that same player.

Because on our team, if you can't chip in 15 points on the fourth line, you are a bust. We need all the secondary scoring we can get. JDLR can't win a faceoff. He isn't really good at throwing power forward crushing lucic level hits.(He isn't bad mind you) His vision is suspect. His skating is good but nothing to set him apart. SO what do you have left if you have limited puck skills, not a whole lot. And each year we say "well he is only_____years old, he is young yet" But hasn't really progressed from the year before.

If you top out at 19 as a d specialist center that has problems winning the draw...well it ain't saying much

 

[Gainesvillain]

Because on our team, if you can't chip in 15 points on the fourth line, you are a bust. We need all the secondary scoring we can get. JDLR can't win a faceoff. He isn't really good at throwing power forward crushing lucic level hits.(He isn't bad mind you) His vision is suspect. His skating is good but nothing to set him apart. SO what do you have left if you have limited puck skills, not a whole lot. And each year we say "well he is only_____years old, he is young yet" But hasn't really progressed from the year before.

If you top out at 19 as a d specialist center that has problems winning the draw...well it ain't saying much

Yeah, but we knew all this when he was 18. He's always been a checker with good skating and positioning. No more, no less.

 

[Mr. Hab]

Not silly at all, imo. Even just on an AHL level, when you see a guy like Julien Brouillette back in town for a try-out as a LHD, it's obvious that they're onto Plan B/C/D/whatever already so... you'd have to think someone with the size/skill/awareness/work ethic of DLR could do even better. But how high could he make it is the question. I think he has the potential to be at least as good as Hanley, but would that be worth it?

I just don't want to lose him to Sweden/European League...I would at least want management to try him out as a dman.

Maybe he has more potential than Hanley and Redmond? (guessing), and so it would be worth it...trying him as a dman.
We could definitely use his size/height back there and reliable/smart DEFENSIVE GAME.

Heck, if many Hab fans don't trust Beaulieu's defensive game and lack of offense and shot (and especially decision making/hockey sense,etc,etc)...maybe DLR can be a better dman vs Beaulieu?!

When did we convert Markov to D? I don't think Lefebvre or Therrien would have the smarts to try it out, but it can possibly work in theory.
How's his skating? I mean if he's able to move the puck well I think it could work. He'll be a good #5/6D that can move the puck and is good on D. He just won't be able to score.

No one here ever said/wrote that Markov was converted while he was a Hab (I could be wrong!?). It happened in Russia before he was drafted by the Habs (from what I know...based on what many Hab fans have said here now and also a few yrs ago,etc).

Just guessing here (guess-timating)...DLR has the potential to be a good #5-6 dman for our Habs (with one year+ of AHL experience as a dman,etc). Score? Well...it would be nice to have at least one Leftie DEFENSIVE specialist dman...reliable for defensive tasks (15-18min). Scoring...Weber, Petry, Markov (regular season only, not playoffs...obviously).