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PWJunior

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Glory Days said:
It would be great if they could move Clutter and use his money to resign DeHaan. Something as simple as that would really make a large difference.
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It kills me that CdH is probably gone. I know I've been one of his biggest supporters. I think we see now how steady and solid he was as the #2 LD.

I think it's imperative we fill his spot with someone as good or better. Banking on Devon Toews to replace him reminds me of Donovan replacing Streit back in the day.
 
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PWJunior said:
It kills me that CdH is probably gone. I know I've been one of his biggest supporters. I think we see now how steady and solid he was as the #2 LD.

I think it's imperative we fill his spot with someone as good or better. Banking on Devon Toews to replace him reminds me of Donovan replacing Streit back in the day.
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Whatever happened to that stats guy who seemed to judge players exclusively on their advanced stats?
 
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Of course we need more than JT! But unless we'd get horrbily, amazingly lucky with a new GM and drafting, in 5 years we'll be writing "this team needs more than Barzal". Look at the top teams in the league, they all have more than one star player, because that's the reality now and that's what you need to have a shot at the Cup... Or even to get into the playoffs. I don't see how letting a star player walk away for nothing is something we should consider doing.

And if your argument here is that Barzal can turn out to be much better than JT, go look at the Oilers. They have McJesus and still are in a deep ****.
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I never said Barzal > JT. My point was exactly yours. It doesn't matter because L&M keep Garth at GM. And that is ownership failure. They are allowing him to continue. The longer that happens the deeper this abis goes.
 

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saw a few reports the flames may be looking to get back into the first round and dougie hamilton might be available... i know it'd be weird but i wouldn't mind sending some combo of picks/dman to the flames got hamilton
 
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PWJunior said:
It kills me that CdH is probably gone. I know I've been one of his biggest supporters. I think we see now how steady and solid he was as the #2 LD.

I think it's imperative we fill his spot with someone as good or better. Banking on Devon Toews to replace him reminds me of Donovan replacing Streit back in the day.
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can someone tell me why Garth didnt expose Dehaan via expansion draft only to lose him next year to URFA? We gave up a first rounder to Vegas to do what again? Free up cap space to do what?

Head scratching asset management. Anyone think Snow signs JT and Dehaan before July 1st?
 
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islesfan66 said:
saw a few reports the flames may be looking to get back into the first round and dougie hamilton might be available... i know it'd be weird but i wouldn't mind sending some combo of picks/dman to the flames got hamilton
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According to Flame posters, Brodie has had a back to back disappointing seasons and while Hamilton is not a rock in his own end of the ice, he does rack up points.
I would be surprised if Brodie is not tbe one shopped.
 
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Flames are going to shop whoever yields the highest return.

Personally, I think their only D worth a damn is Giordano and he is their Captain, and on a long term deal with what I presume has trade protection. Plus he’s on the older side.

Unless Calgary would be willing to move Gaudreau or Monahan (which is just fantasy talk), then I don’t NYI flipping picks back to Calgary.

There’s a reason that team has never taken off in my opinion, some of those guys are overrated.
 
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PWJunior said:
It kills me that CdH is probably gone. I know I've been one of his biggest supporters. I think we see now how steady and solid he was as the #2 LD.

I think it's imperative we fill his spot with someone as good or better. Banking on Devon Toews to replace him reminds me of Donovan replacing Streit back in the day.
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Yeah, I love Toews (got my degree from
QU), love his game, think he’s a modern day defenseman, etc.

But lets be honest with ourselves, he’s 24, having never played in an NHL game yet, and coming off major surgery. I find it really hard to believe that he is just going to transition to the NHL immediately and perform at the level we saw from de Haan.

I think you have to explore bringing de Haan back, I wonder if he would take a 2 year deal at 5m per (or 3/4 year deal at 4.5m per with no trade protection in years 3/4).

I think you just have to get creative and try and sign him to a deal even if you don’t foresee him playing the contract out. It’s just smart GM in my opinion.
 
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Reading Friedman's 31 - mentions Flames will look to acquire #1- wonder if Brodie will be the bait
 
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mm11 said:
can someone tell me why Garth didnt expose Dehaan via expansion draft only to lose him next year to URFA? We gave up a first rounder to Vegas to do what again? Free up cap space to do what?

Head scratching asset management. Anyone think Snow signs JT and Dehaan before July 1st?
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That's not what happened, so there is no answer to your question.
 
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That's not what happened, so there is no answer to your question.
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That's exactly what Snow did.

He gave Vegas a first-round pick in the draft, a second-round pick in 2019, Mikhail Grabovski (and his $5 million contract), and Jake Bischoff. In return, Vegas agreed to take Berube.
 
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beach said:
That's exactly what Snow did.

He gave Vegas a first-round pick in the draft, a second-round pick in 2019, Mikhail Grabovski (and his $5 million contract), and Jake Bischoff. In return, Vegas agreed to take Berube.
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He didn't do that just to protect de Haan, which is my point. Every time one of the players that was protected is brought up in a negative way we see the same type of comments, "why did Snow give up those picks to protect [x] player?!" when that's not what happened. He gave up those assets to protect everyone.

We've seen the same thing talked about for Strome, Nelson, Pelech, Pulock, Bailey, and de Haan.
 
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mm11 said:
can someone tell me why Garth didnt expose Dehaan via expansion draft only to lose him next year to URFA? We gave up a first rounder to Vegas to do what again? Free up cap space to do what?

Head scratching asset management. Anyone think Snow signs JT and Dehaan before July 1st?
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When it happened I was screaming this at the top of my lungs and no one would have any of it. The way he handled the expansion draft was yet another fireable offense all on it's own.
 
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PK Cronin said:
He didn't do that just to protect de Haan, which is my point. Every time one of the players that was protected is brought up in a negative way we see the same type of comments, "why did Snow give up those picks to protect [x] player?!" when that's not what happened. He gave up those assets to protect everyone.

We've seen the same thing talked about for Strome, Nelson, Pelech, Pulock, Bailey, and de Haan.
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While you're right, the premise that he did it to protect Calvin isn't entirely wrong either.... as he was the most likely to get picked off by Vegas if the deal wasn't made.
 
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When it happened I was screaming this at the top of my lungs and no one would have any of it. The way he handled the expansion draft was yet another fireable offense all on it's own.
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I don't view it badly at all, but a lot of that is because we have no idea what McPhee was doing on his end.
 
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