News Article: Is it time for us to discuss Chevy's place in the Hawks mess?

[jetsv2]

If prominent nhl names were being outed, I think they'd be made aware it was coming down the pipe.

Nobody was outed, Chevy was interviewed by the investigative team about the meeting being discussed today. He knew he was going to be mentioned in the report as soon as he agreed to talk to the investigators. There is very little chance that the Blackhawks called the Jets or Chevy and said they would be releasing this today, it was an internal investigation not a league one.

 

[surixon]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Chevy admitted to knowing about it but wasn't so forthcoming in what his exact involvement was in it?

It seems like he did go to batt for individual in the meeting.

I guess I have a hard time determining whether he should be fired or not over it. It seems he pushed for all the right things to happen but was ultimately overruled by people higher up. Should he lose his job for not whistle blowing and toeing the line?

I think you have to send a strong message here and Chevy may have to fall as part of collateral damage.

I think Q absolutely needs to get axed though based on what the report said. Winning being more important then the incident absolute garbage.

 

[JetsUK]

If this is true, Cheveldayoff has to go, as does Quenneville.

As far as whether or not it hurts the Jets, we'll never know. Cheveldayoff was a good GM (in my opinion, anyway), but he was hardly the only good GM. We might even have someone in the organization now that's learned all the tricks and can take over.

The thing is, though, that if this story is true and Cheveldayoff goes, it will reflect positively on the Jets organization, and that will be remembered going forward. If the Jets don't do the right thing, that will also reflect on the organization going forward, and that's what will be remembered in the future when people look back.

These are excellent points.

I can also imagine that some players and player agents are going to be chary about coming to an org and a GM who was (maybe, allegedly) involved in a cover-up of this magnitude. There have already been a few agents weighing on this, and the ripple effects are (and should) be deep and far-reaching.

Some reporters are weighing in. Nothing yet from Wiebe et al.

 

[tbcwpg]

We all know that if there's an interim GM to be named, it's Heisinger and not Maurice, right? Just so we're all on the same page here.

 

[None]

Why exactly is Maurice addressing this tho?

Is he addressing it? I'm assuming because he was asked if so. I'm not sure the briefing timing was actually known by the media until a few hours before it was shown and released. I'm guessing that he's just the first person with media availability related more towards the Ducks game and not any of this (if he is talking about it).

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Why exactly is Maurice addressing this tho?

He's either going to be the interim GM or the league / TNSE simply don't want Chevy in front of the camera at this point.

 

[Daximus]

Some toxic stuff from the players towards John Doe quoted in there. Just so sad. Players are lucky this doesn't reach them.

Yeah they are extremely lucky. How good does it feel to know that you made fun of someone going through this and the person that did it went on to do what he did and you basically helped in enabling that by not standing up for your teammate in that instance? Any captains worth their weight should have been standing up for their teammate and demanding that the perpetrator be fired and charged with sexual assault.

 

[Daximus]

He's either going to be the interim GM or the league / TNSE simply don't want Chevy in front of the camera at this point.

Very well could be. Seems like an easy jump to keep him with the org if that's what ownership wants.

 

[DRW204]

Yup coach q needs to go. Just appalling.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Chevy admitted to knowing about it but wasn't so forthcoming in what his exact involvement was in it?

It seems like he did go to batt for individual in the meeting.

I guess I have a hard time determining whether he should be fired or not over it. It seems he pushed for all the right things to happen but was ultimately overruled by people higher up. Should he lose his job for not whistle blowing and toeing the line?

I think you have to send a strong message here and Chevy may have to fall as part of collateral damage.

I think Q absolutely needs to get axed though based on what the report said. Winning being more important then the incident absolute garbage.

 

[JetsFan815]

We all know that if there's an interim GM to be named, it's Heisinger and not Maurice, right? Just so we're all on the same page here.

I am hoping it's Larry Simmons and not Zinger. Although it would be masterful trolling to name Maurice the GM-Coach.

 

[bustamente]

Jets have probably already made a decision on Chevy and there can be only one outcome probably getting their ducks in a row before making a statement

 

[Channelcat]

Sounds like Bowman is dropping this directly on McDonough......but still, not looking good for all involved.

 

[SCP Guy]

Not sure how anyone at that meeting will survive this......

 

[Atoyot]

See ya Chevy. Time to move on.

 

[Daximus]

Yup coach q needs to go. Just appalling.

All fans seem to be in agreement here that Chevy and Q need to be let go. Over on the Panthers board there isn't a single poster who doesn't think that Q should be fired. You got a team that is off to the best start in franchise history with Q behind the bench and not a single fan wants the coach to remain with the team. That tells you a lot about the severity of this issue. Everyone is just disgusted with these people for all doing nothing and enabling this piece of shit to keep doing what he did.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Chevy admitted to knowing about it but wasn't so forthcoming in what his exact involvement was in it?

It seems like he did go to batt for individual in the meeting.

I guess I have a hard time determining whether he should be fired or not over it. It seems he pushed for all the right things to happen but was ultimately overruled by people higher up. Should he lose his job for not whistle blowing and toeing the line?

I think you have to send a strong message here and Chevy may have to fall as part of collateral damage.

I think Q absolutely needs to get axed though based on what the report said. Winning being more important then the incident absolute garbage.

If you are in a position of leadership and someone comes to you with this you need to step up and do something about it. No one over there did that. I don't think Chevy can sit back and wash his hands of this.

Too many times people have done nothing and allowed someone to get away with something like this. Its funny I was watching the Sandusky HBO movie with Al Pacino playing Joe Paterno and it came across as pathetic how they let him continue to do what they did to "protect" the image.

Chevy is a father of a young woman and I could only imagine how devastated he would be if he found out something similar happened to his daughter and they could have prevented if they acted the first time it came forward.

But because it happens to a "man" they just try to move on from it. Rape is rape as far as I am concerned.

 

[PaulPooley]

We all know that if there's an interim GM to be named, it's Heisinger and not Maurice, right? Just so we're all on the same page here.

I’m not a praying man, but please God, no promotion for Maurice.

 

[jetsv2]

Sounds like Bowman is dropping this directly on McDonough......but still, not looking good for all involved.

Based on the report and what was said in the meeting, it seems that the decision was made that McDonough would handle it. So if that was decided and he chose to do nothing then most of the blame does rest with him, but the rest of them should have done something when they realized McDonough wasn't going to handle it and they all chose to do nothing.

The report indicates that the coach went on to sexually harass an intern after this meeting occurred and everyone in this meeting is responsible for that because they chose to do nothing to stop it.

 

[JetsFan815]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Chevy admitted to knowing about it but wasn't so forthcoming in what his exact involvement was in it?

It seems like he did go to batt for individual in the meeting.

I guess I have a hard time determining whether he should be fired or not over it. It seems he pushed for all the right things to happen but was ultimately overruled by people higher up. Should he lose his job for not whistle blowing and toeing the line?

I think you have to send a strong message here and Chevy may have to fall as part of collateral damage.

I think Q absolutely needs to get axed though based on what the report said. Winning being more important then the incident absolute garbage.

Yeah for Chcvy it's not justifiable but I can imagine him thinking that this is above his paygrade and "higher ups like the GM/HR are dealing with it". But Q's behavior according to the testimony in that report is appalling, multiple people saying that he was worried about the cup and team chemistry combined with his own evasive answers are a bad look. As a coach he needed to have his players back. Him and that McDonough guy def come across the worst from the accounts of that meeting.

 

[tbcwpg]

All fans seem to be in agreement here that Chevy and Q need to be let go. Over on the Panthers board there isn't a single poster who doesn't think that Q should be fired. You got a team that is off to the best start in franchise history with Q behind the bench and not a single fan wants the coach to remain with the team. That tells you a lot about the severity of this issue. Everyone is just disgusted with these people for all doing nothing and enabling this piece of shit to keep doing what he did.

Ironically, that's exactly what Quenneville allegedly said to management - that Chicago may never get that far into the playoffs again and dealing with the issue at that point would negatively impact team chemistry.

 

[Channelcat]

All fans seem to be in agreement here that Chevy and Q need to be let go. Over on the Panthers board there isn't a single poster who doesn't think that Q should be fired. You got a team that is off to the best start in franchise history with Q behind the bench and not a single fan wants the coach to remain with the team. That tells you a lot about the severity of this issue. Everyone is just disgusted with these people for all doing nothing and enabling this piece of shit to keep doing what he did.

Thats the weird part. Why not "out" this guy and be done with it?

 

[surixon]

If you are in a position of leadership and someone comes to you with this you need to step up and do something about it. No one over there did that. I don't think Chevy can sit back and wash his hands of this.

Too many times people have done nothing and allowed someone to get away with something like this. Its funny I was watching the Sandusky HBO movie with Al Pacino playing Joe Paterno and it came across as pathetic how they let him continue to do what they did to "protect" the image.

Chevy is a father of a young woman and I could only imagine how devastated he would be if he found out something similar happened to his daughter and they could have prevented if they acted the first time it came forward.

But because it happens to a "man" they just try to move on from it. Rape is rape as far as I am concerned.

I definitely agree and suspect he's gone by the end of the week. I blame the culture more so then the individual here and if people need to be made example to force positive change then I'm all for it.

My only point was it sounds like he wanted stuff done but was overruled. He probably should have then gone to the police himself if he believed as he said in the meeting but as a young exec just cutting his teeth in the league I can understand why he may have been afraid to go over his bosses heads.

It's that fear of repercussions for doing the right thing that needs to be eliminated from not just hockey but most the corporate world before we get positive changes.

As long as people and corporations are only concerned with looking after themselves first then more of this disgusting crap will occur and be covered up...

 

[ps241]

I am going to wait and see how the process plays out.

 

[Daximus]

If you are in a position of leadership and someone comes to you with this you need to step up and do something about it. No one over there did that. I don't think Chevy can sit back and wash his hands of this.

Too many times people have done nothing and allowed someone to get away with something like this. Its funny I was watching the Sandusky HBO movie with Al Pacino playing Joe Paterno and it came across as pathetic how they let him continue to do what they did to "protect" the image.

Chevy is a father of a young woman and I could only imagine how devastated he would be if he found out something similar happened to his daughter and they could have prevented if they acted the first time it came forward.

But because it happens to a "man" they just try to move on from it. Rape is rape as far as I am concerned.

Yeah when people say toxic masculinity this is what they mean. It's just a dude making sexual advances on another dude. Let's all point and laugh. It's hilarious until it happens to a minor and then we rage? We should be raging the moment it happens to anyone. Man, women, senior, minor. Anyone who enables the sexual assault of another person is no better than the person committing the crime IMO. If you don't do something about it eventually it's your son/daughter or wife/husband or mother/father and then it won't be so funny.

 

[Jet]

For the love of God can we keep the Maurice shit out of this thread? Just this ONE thread? This is a serious and sickening situation and people in here are so f***ing insensitive that they care more about Paul Maurice being the GM. FFS.