GirardSpinorama
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Hmm interesting. I still think Avs keep Girard long term now that Byram is gone though.
Value of: High end package from New Jersey
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IMO the only goalie that can realistically get that 2024 1st from NJ is Swayman cause of how young he is. But I don't think the bruins are going to be willing to do that.
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I think Pettersson would be of interest, if available. Marino needs his buddy back.
I'd go Holtz+2024 1st+sweetener (will go up or down depending on exactly where our pick is) for Swayman if negotiations don't go well there. Historically massive package for a goalie.
I expect him to be resigned tho
Pettersson would be a perfect fit imo (I've been talking about him as a target since like november)
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He would not be cheap. I believe the packages of Bahl+1st+3rd were toss around previously.
It might depend honestly on how the Penguins finish this year. If they get a top 10 pick and keep it, they will want to compete next year so as not to hand SJS a high 1st. They would need to keep Pettersson if that is the case. If they transfer an 11ov+ pick to the SJS and they have their 25 1st, I could see them selling off major assets to gain prospects and draft capital to retool. So if they are keeping their first this year, I imagine any package for Pettersson is going to involve a young, impact player. Which to be fair, is fair because Pettersson is a top pairing impact dman. On paper, the NJD and Pens make good trading partners. What you guys need are pieces we might be willing to move if we are retooling and you have the good young pieces we would want.
From pitt here are pieces of interest imo:
Eller, Acciari as potential 4Cs (eller of much higher interest)
Pettersson as a 2LD/1PK and partner to Marino
Graves if he came as either a cap dump or with retention to make him more palatable
Jarry as a goalie
Reilly Smith as a cheaper 1 year winger rental
protected 2025 1st+Bahl+3rd I think I'd offer for a 50% retained Pettersson.
I think that's at the very top of what you could reasonably expect for a rental (comparable to hanifin deal)
I think the Bruins have to consider it at the very least. They have a pretty limited window of McAvoy and Pasta both being in the heart of their primes while marchand is also still an effective top 6 player. Gotta make some bold moves to try and fill that hole at top line center to capitalize on that window.
Mercer would also be on the table for Swayman imo (and he wouldn't be for any other goalie)
The + in that case would be much smaller but there's your potential top flight C
GirardSpinorama
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Imo, even with swayman's youth its not a good idea to give up that much (and have to give him $$) for a goalie.
Maybe I've been tricked by the ridiculous proposals put out by other fanbases.
If i'm gonna overpay, might as well overpay for the stud 25 year old who should be good for the next 8 years
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No, he was fired because the Devils were playing terrible hockey.
What do you mean by "goalie management"? Vanacek was injured, and he had Daws & Schmid as their goalies. What else could he have done?
Vanacek calling in sick on the 2nd night of back to backs was brutal. Twice
It's what did it for Schmid, that SJS game where he had to start the back to back after making 40 saves the night before vs philly
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1. Leading into the stadium series Lindy was already overplaying Daws. After that big win, Lindy should have played Schmid.
2. Right before Lindy was fired, he was being grilled for Daws playing all the games. It was easy to spot start Schmid in there again.
It's not like Daws needed a bunch of games off, but he did need a rest a game here and there.
GirardSpinorama
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Is Swayman really that much better than grubauer when he was a backup in Washington? Numbers were very similar. Avs paid i think a second round pick for him.
GirardSpinorama
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Schneider was a first round pick and had better creditials imo. Swayman was a great lower round pick like grubs that went to a great team.
I’m probably one of the few Bruins fans that would be okay with moving Swayman and keeping Linus. I think Ullmark has pretty low mileage for a 30 year old and could potentially be good for another 4-5 years, especially behind a solid defense.
I think the offer of Holtz, Bahl, one of Schmid or Daws, and the 1st is pretty close and gives Boston chunks of cash to spend next year with very few spots to fill, and a roster that is pretty young except for Marchand.
I think the offer of Holtz, Bahl, one of Schmid or Daws, and the 1st is pretty close and gives Boston chunks of cash to spend next year with very few spots to fill, and a roster that is pretty young except for Marchand.
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the avs paid a 1st, 3rd, timmins for a year of kuemper. they also traded a 1st (11th overall) and a 2nd for varly.
definitely a sellers market for goaltending right now.
They did overpay Daws. It was out of neccesity, so he didnt get fired because of it, but it was a factor once they ran the wheels off the kid!
The OP says Holtz, Siegenthaler, Filmon, and a first for a goalie. So, Bahl for Siegenthaler and a goalie instead of Filmon makes sense. Not sure where you got your trade.
Then you saw the reply from another fan who actual understands teh value of players not s#!t against a wall-
"This package would be by far the largest package for a goalie in the salary cap era."
If its this years 1st at 10 OA or better there is not much add at all (maybe just keep the damn pick honestly and shop for Linus), sure want to make it a pkg by adding Bahl or similar for Sway and a small pc whatever.
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The only goalies I would trade Holtz, 2024 1st round pick, Siegenthaler, and Filmon for are Swayman, Sorokin, Shesterkin, or Vasilevsky.
The OP was moreso meant to be a combination of those pieces. Not all of them
