HFBoards Top 32 Centers - #3

[LT]

Rank	Player	Votes	Team	GP	G	A	P
1	Connor McDavid	82/86 (95%)	Edmonton Oilers	80	44	79	123
2	Auston Matthews	150/283 (53%)	Toronto Maple Leafs	73	60	46	106
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To add:
Mathew Barzal
Elias Lindholm
Elias Pettersson
Ryan O'Reilly
JT Miller
Anze Kopitar
Roope Hintz

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[amnesiac]

MacK

add Miller if were saying hes a C

to add: Eichel, Hughes. Tavares, Larkin, Kuzy, Pavelski (C?)

 

[LT]

MacK

add Miller if were saying hes a C

to add: Eichel, Hughes. Tavares, Kopitar, Larkin, Kuzy, Pavelski (C?)

Pavs hasn't played C for several years, he'll go in the winger polls.

Thanks for all the suggestions. Makes it a lot easier to slowly add names.

 

[Lavar Ball]

Nathan MacKinnon

 

[leafsfan5]

Draisaitl > Mackinnon

Drai has an MVP, Art Ross, Lindsay, multiple 2nd place rocket finishes. Draisaitl scores more goals, scores more points, and just had the more impressive playoff run between the two.

If you want to argue that Drai plays with McDavid you also need to acknowledge Mackinnon has the likes of Rantanen/Landeskog/Makar/Toews who can help him out

Last 4 seasons:
Drai : 289 games - 179 goals - 230 assists - 409 points (51 goal, 116 point pace)
Mack: 264 games - 128 goals - 217 assists - 345 points (40 goal, 107 point pace)

 

[Foppberg]

MacKinnon. Both he and Draisaitl should be ahead of Matthews anyways.

 

[McJedi]

McDavid
Matthews
MacKinnon
Drai

Those are your top 4 Cs in that order. Number 5 is a tier below them.

Matthews is the best 200 foot player of them. Drai the worst in terms of being a 200 foot player. I don’t like using the word worst with any of these four future HOF first ballot players. They are are elite and elite in any NHL era.

 

[stl76]

Draisaitl vs MacKinnon



Also, add Robert Thomas.

 

[hamzarocks]

Draisaitl > Mackinnon

Drai has an MVP, Art Ross, Lindsay, multiple 2nd place rocket finishes. Draisaitl scores more goals, scores more points, and just had the more impressive playoff run between the two.

If you want to argue that Drai plays with McDavid you also need to acknowledge Mackinnon has the likes of Rantanen/Landeskog/Makar/Toews who can help him out

Last 4 seasons:
Drai : 289 games - 179 goals - 230 assists - 409 points (51 goal, 116 point pace)
Mack: 264 games - 128 goals - 217 assists - 345 points (40 goal, 107 point pace)

Is a 9 pt difference really that much when Mackinnon has torched the playoffs and been insane for the most part?

Very similar level of play and it's a fiar point to have either at 3 imo

 

[Gurglesons]

Drai

Is a 9 pt difference really that much when Mackinnon has torched the playoffs and been insane for the most part?

Very similar level of play and it's a fiar point to have either at 3 imo

Drai has a higher PPG than MacKinnon in the playoffs.

59 points in 37 games. 1.59 ppg

vs.

93 points in 70 games. 1.33 ppg

 

[hamzarocks]

Tha

Drai



Drai has a higher PPG than MacKinnon in the playoffs.

59 points in 37 games. 1.59 ppg

vs.

93 points in 70 games. 1.33 ppg

That's propped up by a great 2ppg playoff run this year with 32 in 16

Draisaitl hasn't gone as deep as Mackinnon and played easier playoff teams

Mackinnon also was the Avs 1C in their cup win and helped sweep Drai/McDavid in the WCF

 

[Gurglesons]

Tha


That's propped up by a great 2ppg playoff run this year with 32 in 16

Draisaitl hasn't gone as deep as Mackinnon and played easier playoff teams

Mackinnon also was the Avs 1C in their cup win and helped sweep Drai/McDavid in the WCF

Draisaitl has been above PPG in every single playoffs he has been in.

This year is the first year MacKinnon ever got past the 2nd round. Just like Drai.

MacKinnon is the most overrated player in hockey tbh.

Drai had more points than MacKinnon playing with a high ankle sprain in the WCF this year.

 

[Lavar Ball]

Anyone who thinks the gap between 2-4 is big are the only ones who are wrong to me. Great arguments for all three players

 

[Gurglesons]

Anyone who thinks the gap between 2-4 is big are the only ones who are wrong to me. Great arguments for all three players

What argument does MacKinnon have for being in the Matthews and Drai conversation?

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Draisaitl has been above PPG in every single playoffs he has been in.

This year is the first year MacKinnon ever got past the 2nd round. Just like Drai.

MacKinnon is the most overrated player in hockey tbh.

Drai had more points than MacKinnon playing with a high ankle sprain in the WCF this year.

That’s fine, but nobody who actually watched that series thought Draisaitl was as good as MacKinnon.

I find this Draisaitl having a better playoff than MacKinnon and McDavid having a better playoff than Makar narrative pretty hilarious. The Avs duo literally beat them head-to-head on their way to winning a Stanley Cup. I like how actually hoisting the damn cup doesn’t mean anything anymore lol.

 

[Gurglesons]

That’s fine, but nobody who actually watched that series thought Draisaitl was as good as MacKinnon.

I find this Draisaitl having a better playoff than MacKinnon and McDavid having a better playoff than Makar narrative pretty hilarious. The Avs duo literally beat them head-to-head on their way to winning a Stanley Cup. I like how actually hoisting the damn cup doesn’t mean anything anymore lol.

I haven’t said either of these things, the fact is that Drai has done everything production wise MacKinnon has done in the playoffs and regular season better which is why he has actual individual trophies in his case. Just like Matthews.

 

[LT]

That’s fine, but nobody who actually watched that series thought Draisaitl was as good as MacKinnon.

I find this Draisaitl having a better playoff than MacKinnon and McDavid having a better playoff than Makar narrative pretty hilarious. The Avs duo literally beat them head-to-head on their way to winning a Stanley Cup. I like how actually hoisting the damn cup doesn’t mean anything anymore lol.

I think this is a bit disingenuous considering the obvious disparity between the two teams. Being on the losing team doesn't mean a player can't have the best performance in a series or playoffs.

 

[Gurglesons]

I think this is a bit disingenuous considering the obvious disparity between the two teams. Being on the losing team doesn't mean a player can't have the best performance in a series or playoffs.

I think it’s hard to argue McDavid’s post season was better than Makar’s. MacKinnon, sure.

 

[AvStock]

People sure do love their regular season queen in Matthews. All the regular season glamour goals that dry up in the Yoffs. It’s

1. McDavid
2. MacK
3. Drai
4. Matthews

 

[Gurglesons]

People sure do love their regular season queen in Matthews. All the regular season glamour goals that dry up in the Yoffs. It’s

1. McDavid
2. MacK
3. Drai
4. Matthews

I'm sure you wouldn't be saying this if MacKinnon had a rocket or a ross..

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

I think this is a bit disingenuous considering the obvious disparity between the two teams. Being on the losing team doesn't mean a player can't have the best performance in a series or playoffs.

The Avs duo was better than the Oilers duo in that series. That’s my point. The Oilers duo was incredible in game 4, but didn’t carry play like MacKinnon and Makar did in the other three games.

That was a factor in the series and a key part of the Avalanche cup run.

 

[snipes]

Draisaitl.

Poll #4 could probably just be skipped, whomever out of him or MacKinnon doesn’t take this poll should have 100% of the votes for #4.

McDavid followed by Drai/Matthews/MacK in some order is easily the consensus top 4.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Going as expected so far.

McD
Matthews
Mack

 

[AvStock]

I'm sure you wouldn't be saying this if MacKinnon had a rocket or a ross..

I don’t care about regular season bling. Matthews has not shown any pedigree in the yoffs

 

[Gurglesons]

I don’t care about regular season bling. Matthews has not shown any pedigree in the yoffs

That’s the kinda take that gets Toews rated above Evgeni Malkin.