Sojourn
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Na, the dog is just a chick magnet he regularly (when home) will walk to the nearest Starbucks, sit down, and let the dog work his magic.
This guy knows.
It works.
Na, the dog is just a chick magnet he regularly (when home) will walk to the nearest Starbucks, sit down, and let the dog work his magic.
Good description by Sojourn, it is very much the same how I see Lindholm.
If Lindholm were the player you were describing, and he drove the play with the puck and made things happen at the other end, his point totals would show it.
We all watched.Your analysis just boils down to "I see that he didn't score many points on this sheet, therefore the other stats are wrong".
Your analysis just boils down to "I see that he didn't score many points on this sheet, therefore the other stats are wrong".
Your analysis just boils down to "I see that he didn't score many points on this sheet, therefore the other stats are wrong".
Sojourn - have you ever actually looked into analytics? Or does it just not agree with your amazing eyes so you discount the actual data? Apologies if I find it difficult to take seriously the opinion of a fan who thinks the flashy player is better than the guy that all numbers other than points say is one of the best in the league.
The analytics tell you that Lindholm is great at suppressing shots for the other team.
I don't know where the idea that the analytics mean he should be scoring more points is coming from. That's not what they're pointing to
Right now he's elite defensively and maybe the offense will come more someday like it has for Hedman
That he takes the puck in the defensive zone and drives it up and make things happen in the other end.
You're right, which is why I disagreed with the statement:
The evidence doesn't support that.
Yeah, I was agreeing with you
I like the Hedman comparison too. Hedman is a 6'6" beast who just put up 70 points, so maybe that's not entirely realistic(that would be ****ing awesome though), but I think the way he grew into his offensive game is comparable.
Hedman wasn't exactly lighting it up early in his career, but then it started to come together for him. I think we've seen some of that potential in Lindholm's game. He's been a beast in some games. If he can be that guy more consistently, we could be talking about an elite #1 guy. He's still a great defenseman, but I think he's shown signs he can be that much better.
Sojourn - have you ever actually looked into analytics? Or does it just not agree with your amazing eyes so you discount the actual data? Apologies if I find it difficult to take seriously the opinion of a fan who thinks the flashy player is better than the guy that all numbers other than points say is one of the best in the league.
I like Getzlaf better on the half wall, where he can take a couple of steps to the middle and rip it, and still feed out to the points.
"all the numbers say"
Getzlaf on the point certainly makes for a more exciting game. Whether it's by unleashing some rockets from the point or getting beat like a rented mule trying to get back on an odd man break going the other way. I'd really prefer him on the half wall. No reason he can't skate towards the center of the ice and unleash a rocket now and then.
Put me in the camp that wants to see Magnus given some PP responsibilities. Especially over Bieksa.
I'd assume Fowler, Vatanen, Montour, and probably a forward will be on the point during PPs this year. Lindholm might be given an opportunity with Sami out.