SHANNYPLAN
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they should switch Kappy and Johnsson
I like that... A LOT actuallythey should switch kappy and hyman
I like that... A LOT actually
But Hyman will never get moved off the top line, players will come and go, Hyman will always be there
You're not wrong.I just find him a bit sad. The guy was a pretty decent poster once, and he's got a good eye for talent. Unfortunately, it usually takes a back seat to whatever motivations he's got for taking a particular stance on a particular subject.
I just wish people would leave him alone instead of giving him attention.
not sure what your getting at? Only carrick, kap, nylander and marner are accountable? What about Anderson, Kadri, JVR, Mathews, Hainsey etc... ?expecting another no show from blackhole brown tonight. This "accountability" garbage is such a joke, the only 4 players it counts for is carrick, kap, nylander and sometimes marner.
those players aren't held accountable to any standard, yes.not sure what your getting at? Only carrick, kap, nylander and marner are accountable? What about Anderson, Kadri, JVR, Mathews, Hainsey etc... ?
expecting another no show from blackhole brown tonight. This "accountability" garbage is such a joke, the only 4 players it counts for is carrick, kap, nylander and sometimes marner.
Any standard that you know of. It's completely ridiculous to assume that Auston Matthews isn't held to any kind of standard. I mean give me a break. Just because a player isn't swiftly sent to the 4th line doesn't mean they aren't being held accountable.those players aren't held accountable to any standard, yes.
top 12? you mean on the team? that measure simply isn't good enough. Hes got the skill to be a top 6 guy or at least top 9 and he has done zilch offensively this season, pick it up or get the hell out!Brownie has struggled in his sophomore season to be sure, but he's still a hard worker and responsible defensively. He belongs in the top 12.
woah woah woah, what the hell are you talking about? There have been games this year where matthews has been a bottom 3 forward on the team, where matthews has turned the puck over lots of times and been a huge minus on the night and literally nothing happens for it. And to be clear, 34 is my favorite player on the team. The difference is, in babs eyes, hes the golden boy and nylander is a soft swede. It is literally impossible for you to sit here and argue that the players on this team are being held equally accountable, it isn't even close to being a reasonable claim. Anyways back to my point, brown specifically is skirting by worry free and its complete bullshit. Hes been an offensive blackhole and for a guy with all that talent he needs to be held accountable for it, and he simply isnt. People talk about how "oh komarov and polak suck ya ya ya" but what about brown? How can komarov be considered abysmal while brown only has 6 more points in the same number of games... especially when brown is unanimously viewed as having significantly more skill/talent than leo? its just a complete shit argument.Any standard that you know of. It's completely ridiculous to assume that Auston Matthews isn't held to any kind of standard. I mean give me a break. Just because a player isn't swiftly sent to the 4th line doesn't mean they aren't being held accountable.
I don't disagree with you about Brown he has been completely underwhelming this season. My main point was that I think it is a pretty large leap in logic to think that just because Matthews isn't shuttered to the 4th line after a bad game that they aren't holding him accountable. There are more ways to do it then taking ice time from a player. How they decide to do that who knows at times. I'm 100% with you on Brown and how bad he has been just think you are a little off base with the rest of your argument.woah woah woah, what the hell are you talking about? There have been games this year where matthews has been a bottom 3 forward on the team, where matthews has turned the puck over lots of times and been a huge minus on the night and literally nothing happens for it. And to be clear, 34 is my favorite player on the team. The difference is, in babs eyes, hes the golden boy and nylander is a soft swede. It is literally impossible for you to sit here and argue that the players on this team are being held equally accountable, it isn't even close to being a reasonable claim. Anyways back to my point, brown specifically is skirting by worry free and its complete bull****. Hes been an offensive blackhole and for a guy with all that talent he needs to be held accountable for it, and he simply isnt. People talk about how "oh komarov and polak suck ya ya ya" but what about brown? How can komarov be considered abysmal while brown only has 6 more points in the same number of games... especially when brown is unanimously viewed as having significantly more skill/talent than leo? its just a complete **** argument.
What happened to leivo?
Right but you are talking about this logically, that isn't what we are seeing being practiced in reality here. What we are seeing is crap like "1 bad game at C for nylander = kicked back to wing and minutes scaled back by 10-15%" or if he has a bad winger game or 2 babs has no problem demoting him to the 4th line, hes done it 4 or 5 times in 2 years. My point is, compare that to the komarov or bozak treatment. It took babs more than 1.5 YEARS to move komarov down off of kadri's line, so when 1 guy gets a 1.5 game leash and 1 guy gets a 1.5 year leash I just cant sit here and agree that these decisions are being made based on logic, its very clear that large cognitive biases are holding us back and its just disgusting.I don't disagree with you about Brown he has been completely underwhelming this season. My main point was that I think it is a pretty large leap in logic to think that just because Matthews isn't shuttered to the 4th line after a bad game that they aren't holding him accountable. There are more ways to do it then taking ice time from a player. How they decide to do that who knows at times. I'm 100% with you on Brown and how bad he has been just think you are a little off base with the rest of your argument.