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No way.JVR(extended) + 2nd from Toronto
JVR >>> Galchenuk
JVR is a proven 30 goal scoring top line LW.
No way.JVR(extended) + 2nd from Toronto
Apparently sarcasm needs to be clearly marked for everyone to get it.
But, shouldn't it really be 61 games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4, since that's all Galchenyuk actually played last year? And I could easily point to all the years when Duchene outscored Galchenyuk (it's more than 61 games), or that it took Duchene having a career worst season on a historically bad team for Galchenyuk to beat him by 2 whole points, but you seem to be having fun thinking that Galchenyuk is better than Duchene, and I wouldn't want reality to ruin that for you.
No way.
JVR >>> Galchenuk
JVR is a proven 30 goal scoring top line LW.
LOL and just a bit before you stated Sakic doesn't have to trade Duchene because the team is winning (4-1). 5 games man. Do you really think your team will make the playoffs?? Do you really think Sakic hopes this pace continues so he doesn't have to trade Duchene for half of what he is asking and get embarassed about it?? If so, he is even more stupid than i thought.
A trade that could make sense for both team's, if he'd waive, and he might as he's currently playing 3c and probably not moving past the two Cs in front of him, would be Frans Nielson straight up for AG
Nielson would slide right into Montreals top 6 and Galchenyuk would slide into Detroits 3c, presumably filling Zetterberg's slot in top 6 over the next couple of years whether at C or wing.
Nielson would bring consistency to Montreal's top 6 and AG would get the change of scenery he needs, lessening the pressure he's obviously not dealing with well. Detroit would have to make the decision based on long term production, hoping AG finds his game, as Nielson is the better player as we speak. The age difference might mean something to other organizations but isn't the case with Montreal. Nielson has a good 5 yrs left in the tank.
AG has all the tools but his continued decline doesn't help in going after a Duchene or any other top tier player. Nielson will bring the Habs 3-4 years of production in their top 6. With no centers on the horizon, this is also probably the best type return the Habs could hope for, if we're talking about production over the next few years, availability of a top 6 center and the possibility of a team (Detroit) willing to deal one away.
Some may say try to get AA out of Detroit instead but I doubt Detroit makes that deal. One stat GMs don't overlook is TOI/PTS and AA owns it. If he's moved, people are going to be very surprised at what he brings in return.
A trade that could make sense for both team's, if he'd waive, and he might as he's currently playing 3c and probably not moving past the two Cs in front of him, would be Frans Nielson straight up for AG
Nielson would slide right into Montreals top 6 and Galchenyuk would slide into Detroits 3c, presumably filling Zetterberg's slot in top 6 over the next couple of years whether at C or wing.
Nielson would bring consistency to Montreal's top 6 and AG would get the change of scenery he needs, lessening the pressure he's obviously not dealing with well. Detroit would have to make the decision based on long term production, hoping AG finds his game, as Nielson is the better player as we speak. The age difference might mean something to other organizations but isn't the case with Montreal. Nielson has a good 5 yrs left in the tank.
AG has all the tools but his continued decline doesn't help in going after a Duchene or any other top tier player. Nielson will bring the Habs 3-4 years of production in their top 6. With no centers on the horizon, this is also probably the best type return the Habs could hope for, if we're talking about production over the next few years, availability of a top 6 center and the possibility of a team (Detroit) willing to deal one away.
Some may say try to get AA out of Detroit instead but I doubt Detroit makes that deal. One stat GMs don't overlook is TOI/PTS and AA owns it. If he's moved, people are going to be very surprised at what he brings in return.
Lol a 33 year old Nielson has the potential to be one of the worst contracts in the NHL. If he goes from being a 40ish point guy to a 30 or less guy, he has significant negative value.
What would you say AG is worth then?? He's 23 and he's been going the wrong direction for an extended period of time now. What do you think they can get? Teams dont give away top 6 Cs... AG hasnt shown he can play C at NHL level and he's 5 years in.. Habs wont take a prospect in return. So what should they expect??
Seems about right to me. RNH costs more... I think, but don't know if, Galchenyuk benefit the Oil by being a skilled winger on one of the two Super Studs lines.RNH ?
JVR has as many 30 goal seasons as Galchenyuk does.No way.
JVR >>> Galchenuk
JVR is a proven 30 goal scoring top line LW.
As a Leafs fan, id jump all over Bergevin if he is looking to move him.
For whatever reason, he seems to have fallen out of favor at the same time MTL seems to be in a 'win now' mode.
I know the JVR+Bozak narative has been thrown around allot, but with MTL's struggle to score right now, it could be an interesting deal.
Bozie+JVR (@50%)+Leivo
for
Galch + McCaron/Scherbak
This is correct. JVR is a MUCH better version of Alex Galchenyuk.
And can be had in the upcoming offseason for nothing but cap space.
Incorrect! He will very likely be on a new contract by then.
But even if that was the case, the whole point of teams trading for guys BEFORE they become UFA's, is to lock them up for less money, for term, and also to keep other teams around them from getting the guy. So act now, teams......times running out!! Order your JVR today!!
That makes absolutly no sense at all, if the player wants to test the free market he will do so, trade or not. Locking the player before he gets UFA has absolutly nothing to do with how much $$ he will want. Its alot of different factor, he has alot more chance to take discount for toronto because he has an afinity for the team than a random team he acquires him at the deadline-ish, anyway imo JVR will want to get big money frok being underpaid for years. He knows that and open market is his best bet.
Yeah..........IF he wants to test the free agent market. But once traded, that new team can offer 8 years instead of 7 on the "open market", which is a huge plus these days. Lets see..........8 years at 6 million per, as opposed to 7 years at 6 million per. TOUGH DECISION FOR THE PLAYER!!
The idea being that the extra year can be outweighed by a potential 'bidding war' to occur. This isnt the case for all players, but sought after players - sure.
8x 6 is nice, but what if you could do 7x7 instead? I get to play one year less and make a million more per year.
No way.
JVR >>> Galchenuk
JVR is a proven 30 goal scoring top line LW.
This is correct. JVR is a MUCH better version of Alex Galchenyuk.
LOL and just a bit before you stated Sakic doesn't have to trade Duchene because the team is winning (4-1). 5 games man. Do you really think your team will make the playoffs?? Do you really think Sakic hopes this pace continues so he doesn't have to trade Duchene for half of what he is asking and get embarassed about it?? If so, he is even more stupid than i thought.
Yeah. Maximum term is not important to platers at all. That's right.
A trade that could make sense for both team's, if he'd waive, and he might as he's currently playing 3c and probably not moving past the two Cs in front of him, would be Frans Nielson straight up for AG
Nielson would slide right into Montreals top 6 and Galchenyuk would slide into Detroits 3c, presumably filling Zetterberg's slot in top 6 over the next couple of years whether at C or wing.
Nielson would bring consistency to Montreal's top 6 and AG would get the change of scenery he needs, lessening the pressure he's obviously not dealing with well. Detroit would have to make the decision based on long term production, hoping AG finds his game, as Nielson is the better player as we speak. The age difference might mean something to other organizations but isn't the case with Montreal. Nielson has a good 5 yrs left in the tank.
AG has all the tools but his continued decline doesn't help in going after a Duchene or any other top tier player. Nielson will bring the Habs 3-4 years of production in their top 6. With no centers on the horizon, this is also probably the best type return the Habs could hope for, if we're talking about production over the next few years, availability of a top 6 center and the possibility of a team (Detroit) willing to deal one away.
Some may say try to get AA out of Detroit instead but I doubt Detroit makes that deal. One stat GMs don't overlook is TOI/PTS and AA owns it. If he's moved, people are going to be very surprised at what he brings in return.