Speculation: Freddy Andersen is the best leafs tender since CUJO

bunjay

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It's hard to wrap my head around how good he's been to bring his save percentage up to where it is after being below .900 for what, a month?
 

sparxx87

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Didn’t Belfour come after Cujo? Eddie was the better goalie.

... but aside from that, yes, Andersen is the best since Belfour. No question.
 

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Cujo was easily the better playoff goalie for us. Belfour won 1 series in 2 years whereas Cujo brought us to the conference finals twice and we never lost in the first round...
 

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Eddie ended up with a 2.51gaa/.912sv% as a leaf

Freddie sits at 2.65gaa/.920sv%

Belfour has a couple good seasons on stronger leafs teams than Andersen currently plays for, but his stinky 3rd year still lingers with me

Im probably higher on freddy than most (ie not roasting hom for his awful octobers) but gotta give the man credit. He joined the worst team in the league and has gone 51-26-15 since.

I think Freddy has been fantastic for us.
 

Halla

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Not to take anything away from Andy, but to be fair the backups exclusively play on the tail end of back to backs. That probably drags them down a bit.

Kuemper is 5-0-3
Khudobin is 8-2-2
Hutton is 5-3-0
David Rittich has started 3-1


McElhinney/Enroth have combined to go 9-14-1. its just not good enough. back to back or no back to back, a team that is looking like they will be around 100pts needs to have a backup that can not only steal a game or 2, but not cost them games either. McEhlinney was amazing against the oilers, but he was pretty lucky with them hitting 4 posts. he was awful against columbus and awful a couple starts ago when he got shelled. even at the top of his game, he is shaky.
 

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Belfour's problem is that he stuck around long after his shelf life expired so the memory is tainted. Cujo moved on at the peak of his career.
 

Gary Nylund

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Can we talk James Reimer?

Agreed. Cujo and Belfour were here a long time ago, if we're not going to talk about Andersen we should at least talk about Reimer and don't forget Bernier too. In case anyone is interested, Reimer's SV% currently sits at .901 and Bernier is at .893.
 

DatSnipeMatthews

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Andersen is better than Cujo.

Let's wait until he has a postseason akin to Cujo. Andersen had a .915 save percentage in last years playoffs. If we had prime Cujo, we coulda' won.

In 92-93, Joseph absolutely robbed the Hawks in the first round (first time he outdueled Belfour). And then he almost single-handedly beat the leafs - lost in 7 games. He finished with a .938 save percentage in the playoffs. And this is the highest scoring season in the 1990s

In 96-97 , he STOLE the series against the Stars. The Stars were clearly the better team. Finished with a .911 save percentage in the playoffs.

In 97-98, he STOLE the series against the Avs. He outdueled none other than Patrick Roy. He finished with a .928 save percentage in the playoffs.

In 98-99, the Leafs made it to the 3rd round but he wasn't spectacular in any of the series. He finished with a .907 save percentage.

In 1999-2000, Joseph STOLE the first round against the heavily favoured Sens and almost outdueled Brodeur in the second round. Finished with a .932 save percentage.

2000-2001, Joseph again won us the series against the Sens before losing to the devils yet again. Finished with .927 save percentage.

2001-2002, he played like crap against the Islanders in the first round but we were still good enough to win. He picked it up big time against the Sens and won us the series because we had a crap ton of injuries. He played even better against the Canes but we couldn't score to save our lives. He finished with a .934 save percentage.

Joseph is known as one of the best playoffs goalies ever despite never winning it all. He absolutely stole 4-6 series that his team had absolutely no business winning. I've yet to see Andersen do anything remotely close to what Cujo did in the playoffs.
 

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Belfour was the man in his hey day.

Him and Freddy are close, but still give the edge to the Eagle - for now.. maybe a good Cup run will change my mind.
 

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Since Belfour, yeah. Giguere was probably the best inbetween, even though he was aging at that point.

Freddy's a legit #1, if he keeps up this level of play the rest of the year we should all be thrilled.
 

AcerComputer

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Anderson if he can finish the season like the way he is playing right now. But as of last season it's Riemer.
 

BoredBrandonPridham

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Kuemper is 5-0-3
Khudobin is 8-2-2
Hutton is 5-3-0
David Rittich has started 3-1


McElhinney/Enroth have combined to go 9-14-1. its just not good enough. back to back or no back to back, a team that is looking like they will be around 100pts needs to have a backup that can not only steal a game or 2, but not cost them games either. McEhlinney was amazing against the oilers, but he was pretty lucky with them hitting 4 posts. he was awful against columbus and awful a couple starts ago when he got shelled. even at the top of his game, he is shaky.

He’s .916. He’s fine as a backup. The fact that he only plays on second night of b2b is a perfect reason why he shouldn’t be judged on wins alone.
 

MR4

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McElhinney has been solid. Ideal backup for Freddy in my eyes.
I'd like to play Pickard (probably next year) to see if we can get him to #1B levels he was at before the tire fire season everyone in Colorado had, we could reduce Andersen's workload to 50 games to have him ready to be unleashed in playoffs, while also getting a minimum of a 2nd rounder or hopefully a 1st in a trade after the season.
 

Halla

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He’s .916. He’s fine as a backup. The fact that he only plays on second night of b2b is a perfect reason why he shouldn’t be judged on wins alone.

most backups only play on the tail end of the back to back
not all backups have losing records.

I just dont think McElhinney is very good, and his 2.94GAA..906SV% over his career backs that up.

Pickard is at a 2.77gaa/.914SV% and that include a year where he was on a historically bad avs team
 

Halla

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Can we talk James Reimer?

we already have. he couldnt put together back to back good seasons so he doesnt belong in the convo.
but if you must

Andersen: 51-26-15, 2.65GAA/.920SV%
Reimer: 85-76-23. 2.83GAA/.914SV%

so yeah, reimer is no where close. and i was a pretty big reimer fan over his first few seasons and will never forget him leading us into the playoffs during the lockout

Riemer has been an absolute sieve this year in Florida by the way, and looks well behind 40 year old Luongo
 

Halla

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We’re already talking about Reimer 2.0 :sarcasm:

Reimer and Andersen both had 20 wins as rookies. Reimer has never gotten that again and Andersen has never not gotten it. Freddy is with .724 QS% this year is absolutely filthy. there really is no comparison here, even tongue in cheek
 

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Reimer and Andersen both had 20 wins as rookies. Reimer has never gotten that again and Andersen has never not gotten it. Freddy is with .724 QS% this year is absolutely filthy. there really is no comparison here, even tongue in cheek

what determines if the games has been a quality start? And what % is considered to be good? Is it above 50 %?
 

DarkKnight

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Kuemper is 5-0-3
Khudobin is 8-2-2
Hutton is 5-3-0
David Rittich has started 3-1


McElhinney/Enroth have combined to go 9-14-1. its just not good enough. back to back or no back to back, a team that is looking like they will be around 100pts needs to have a backup that can not only steal a game or 2, but not cost them games either. McEhlinney was amazing against the oilers, but he was pretty lucky with them hitting 4 posts. he was awful against columbus and awful a couple starts ago when he got shelled. even at the top of his game, he is shaky.
Ridiculous to include Enroth, actually detracts from whatever point you're trying to make.
 

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