Speculation: Freddy Andersen is the best leafs tender since CUJO

[ULF_55]

Of course not but not sure what you're not happy about with it comes to Belfour and the playoffs. He was with us at the tail end of his career but was still quite good - playoff SV% was .915 over 7 games the first year and .929 over 13 games the next year.

Flyers' extra effort spoils special game for Belfour

Hard to argue against your point ... but IIRC there were 2 bad angle goals in the series, one mentioned in this outstanding performance and was the series winner a bad angle as well?

I know there were 2 ...

Regardless, Belfour was by far the superior goaltender to Joseph, although Joseph had some nice moments with the Leafs before it soured.

 

[ToneDog]

Freddy not the the level of a Leaf Cujo or Belfour but they were more seasoned when they got here. Funny how some were ready to roast him on a stick in October eh ?

 

[DarkKnight]

My standard line is he's the best tender since Belfour. I take Belfour over Cujo, if only because our d coverage was abysmal during his tenure yet you all always knew he could bail us out. A more efficient, quiet presence in net, a master of angles, the old Belfour was a treat.

I'm also happy the Reimer stuff has finally stopped, it's just embarrassing to even mention him anymore, Andy so much more stable.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Freddy not the the level of a Leaf Cujo or Belfour but they were more seasoned when they got here. Funny how some were ready to roast him on a stick in October eh ?

It is pretty funny. Maybe it's just that I didn't get much sleep last night but for whatever reason, I'm finding this hilarious right about now.

 

[DarkKnight]

And if Octobers actually mattered the Habs would be defending back to back champs

 

[Clark4Ever]

You mean he's the best since Eddie Belfour.

 

[firstemperor]

I might have been the biggest Cujo fan ever growing up. But looking back, goaltenders were far more watered down back then and he wasn't anything amazing. He was acrobatic, though, sure.

Belfour was probably better, all things considered. And Andersen playing in Cujo's era would have probably been more dominant, but he's always been to me (an above average goalie with upside). He hasn't done anything to prove otherwise yet, particularly with his horrid Octobers and penchant to let in the occasional softie.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Flyers' extra effort spoils special game for Belfour

Hard to argue against your point ... but IIRC there were 2 bad angle goals in the series, one mentioned in this outstanding performance and was the series winner a bad angle as well?

I know there were 2 ...

Regardless, Belfour was by far the superior goaltender to Joseph, although Joseph had some nice moments with the Leafs before it soured.

OK I honestly don't remember those details and it doesn't really matter. Cujo was very good, Belfour was a notch above him (and good for us even though past his prime) but today, Freddie is the man. It's been a long time coming but we finally found our guy and I can see him being the guy for the next 10 years. I'm not predicting that's what will happen as goalies are notoriously hard to predict but I could see it happening, he has that aura of unflappability about him.

 

[Cor]

Since Belfour.

But did anyone think otherwise? Raycroft, Toskala, Gustavsson, Giguere, Reimer, Bernier have been our starting goalies since Belfour. Then you have Aubin, Gerber, Pogge, etc

None of them come close to Andersen.

 

[Tak7]

Flyers' extra effort spoils special game for Belfour

Hard to argue against your point ... but IIRC there were 2 bad angle goals in the series, one mentioned in this outstanding performance and was the series winner a bad angle as well?

I know there were 2 ...

Regardless, Belfour was by far the superior goaltender to Joseph, although Joseph had some nice moments with the Leafs before it soured.

I remember that game quite vividly.

I remember Darcy Tucker getting knocked out and not moving, and then eventually coming back and playing - clear concussion, and would never be allowed today lol

 

[Drytoast]

Man these boards are like a female going through her menstral cycle.

I can't keep up!

Gettin my surf board ready for the inevitable wave of "trade freddy he sucks" threads/posts after his next bad game.

 

[Damisoph]

Belfour was really good.

Cujo did what he did behind one of the most porous D corps ever, man if you guys think what we have now is bad you would have freaked out in the late 90s early 2000s.

 

[DarkKnight]

Since Belfour.

But did anyone think otherwise? Raycroft, Toskala, Gustavsson, Giguere, Reimer, Bernier have been our starting goalies since Belfour. Then you have Aubin, Gerber, Pogge, etc

None of them come close to Andersen.

You dare to diss the Gerber era.

 

[al secord]

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[Damisoph]

"Oasis is the best British band since the Beatles!"

lol...maybe if the Clash never existed.

 

[Bagge]

"Oasis is the best British band since the Beatles!"

According to who?

 

[Community]

It'll be nice when he removes Raycroft from the Leafs history with the most wins in a season at some point. He could do it this season (he's easily pacing for it), but if not I would bet he will at some point during his current contract.

 

[hfman]

Man these boards are like a female going through her menstral cycle.

I can't keep up!

Gettin my surf board ready for the inevitable wave of "trade freddy he sucks" threads/posts after his next bad game.

boy you hit the nail on the head.

Al it takes is a 3-game winning streak to declare Andersen the best goalie since Belfour.

But a 3-game losing streak means he's a bust and it's time to trade him.

Andersen is in the middle of a good stretch right now. (and yes, more than 3 games, granted).

But Raycroft, Toskala, Gustavson, Reimer, etc. all had good stretches too. And where are those guys now? That's right, they've all been run outta town.




Is there anyone on the forums with a long-term vision and not just a 3-game vision anymore?

 

[7even]

boy you hit the nail on the head.

Al it takes is a 3-game winning streak to declare Andersen the best goalie since Belfour.

But a 3-game losing streak means he's a bust and it's time to trade him.

Andersen is in the middle of a good stretch right now. (and yes, more than 3 games, granted).

But Raycroft, Toskala, Gustavson, Reimer, etc. all had good stretches too. And where are those guys now? That's right, they've all been run outta town.




Is there anyone on the forums with a long-term vision and not just a 3-game vision anymore?

I’m not sure what you’re suggesting. That Andersen is riding a hot streak? He’s been playing at a comparable level for 1.5 seasons now. Or is it that players eventually degrade? Right you are.

 

[bobg1]

Time to give this man his due. with the win over the pens, he is now 50-24-15 as a leaf.
The leafs have gotten points in 73% of the games he has gotten a decision in, and put up a 106pt pace


by comparison, the backups have combined to go 9-13-1 since he has been a leaf.
they only get points in 39% of those games, and put up a 68pt pace


Let that sink in.

What about Eddie "The Eagle"

 

[Halla]

You mean he's the best since Eddie Belfour.

Eddie ended up with a 2.51gaa/.912sv% as a leaf

Freddie sits at 2.65gaa/.920sv%

Belfour has a couple good seasons on stronger leafs teams than Andersen currently plays for, but his stinky 3rd year still lingers with me

Im probably higher on freddy than most (ie not roasting hom for his awful octobers) but gotta give the man credit. He joined the worst team in the league and has gone 51-26-15 since.

 

[Halla]

boy you hit the nail on the head.

Al it takes is a 3-game winning streak to declare Andersen the best goalie since Belfour.

But a 3-game losing streak means he's a bust and it's time to trade him.

Andersen is in the middle of a good stretch right now. (and yes, more than 3 games, granted).

But Raycroft, Toskala, Gustavson, Reimer, etc. all had good stretches too. And where are those guys now? That's right, they've all been run outta town.




Is there anyone on the forums with a long-term vision and not just a 3-game vision anymore?

I challenge you to find one post where I have ever said that. go on, ill wait.

put up otherwise you are just blowing smoke.

also when were raycroft,toskala,gustavsson ever good? they were all awful. rayvroft won like 37 games with a .894sv% giving up 4-5 goals a game down the stretch and cost us the playoffs. Tosakala was awful his entire tenure and gustavsson never came close to p[anning out. their hot stretches were for weeks, not a year and a half like andersen. in regards to reimer, he seemed to rotate good years with bad.

andersen 919sv%, 918sv%, 923sv%

a bit different no? dude has been pretty good for a few years

 

[Maurice Del Taco]

He's been excellent so far. Just want him to be 2011 Tim Thomas like in the playoffs.

 

[Blair]

I'll never forget how Eddie carried us past the Sens in that series. Just the way he was in Ottawa's heads - especially Alfredsson. His second shutout in game 3 was epic in part because the Leafs only got about 17 shots on goal that game (and just looking it up now it seems that's more shots than they managed during Eddie's 3rd shutout in game 5).

 

[BoredBrandonPridham]

Time to give this man his due. with the win over the pens, he is now 50-24-15 as a leaf.
The leafs have gotten points in 73% of the games he has gotten a decision in, and put up a 106pt pace


by comparison, the backups have combined to go 9-13-1 since he has been a leaf.
they only get points in 39% of those games, and put up a 68pt pace


Let that sink in.

Not to take anything away from Andy, but to be fair the backups exclusively play on the tail end of back to backs. That probably drags them down a bit.