shakes
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heshootshescores said:How much $$$$ they make in the league by themselves????
Probably around the same.. maybe more now they dont have to share with anyone.
heshootshescores said:How much $$$$ they make in the league by themselves????
Stephen said:The Caps are a fat cat franchise. You're not exactly small market when your owner is Ted Leonsis. You're not small market when your team has paid out over $50 in salary in each of the past three seasons and your team is not small market when you shell out $77 million on one player. For all of the Leafs' spending the past few years, I'm not sure that their free agent acquisitions even came close to $77 million. So please spare me the nonsense about Washington being a poor small market team who deserves another #1 pick more than a playoff team.
Stephen said:The Caps are a fat cat franchise. You're not exactly small market when your owner is Ted Leonsis. You're not small market when your team has paid out over $50 in salary in each of the past three seasons and your team is not small market when you shell out $77 million on one player. For all of the Leafs' spending the past few years, I'm not sure that their free agent acquisitions even came close to $77 million. So please spare me the nonsense about Washington being a poor small market team who deserves another #1 pick more than a playoff team.
Mayor of MacAppolis said:The same as all the others would make without the Toronto Maple Leafs. The league should be bending over backwards to make the Leafs happy after screwing them out of $100 million because Peter Karmanos is an idiot, because the St louis Blues can't manage a team, because the Detroit Red Wings can't even make money, and because Gary Bettman and some greedy owners couldn't help themselves when expansion dollars were flashed in front of their eyes (looking at you Bruce Mcnall and the 50 million cheque from the ducks) !
shakes said:Probably around the same.. maybe more now they dont have to share with anyone.
Mayor of MacAppolis said:The difference between the Capitals and the Leafs is the Leafs could afford to pay the salaries, the Caps can't. The reason the league is in this mess it teams spending what they don't have. The Leafs have!
heshootshescores said:If that is your belief than the big teams deserve ZERO chance. Drafts are about immediate results... but we have none. So big teams would deserve no immediate compensation for the upcoming CBA. They will get it, just like every other NA league, through the you suck => you get a high pick next year routine, we call the draft.
Mayor of MacAppolis said:The difference between the Capitals and the Leafs is the Leafs could afford to pay the salaries, the Caps can't. The reason the league is in this mess it teams spending what they don't have. The Leafs have!
Mayor of MacAppolis said:EDIT:
An example is the Toronto Maple Leafs. According to Forbes.com (2003), the Leafs reported the following revenues during the 2002-2003 season:
- Operating revenues of $13.8 million US
- Ticket revenue of $49 million US
- Other revenues of $42.2 million US
- Total revenues of $105 million US
heshootshescores said:agreed... partially.
The problem was arbitration tying salaries, so one clubs decisions, such as the TML who could afford it, affect 29 others... the problem was clubs didn't walk away from the awards... the problem was that the clubs could only walk away from a limited amount of them... the problem was that there is no way to compensate teams who walk away from awards (ie comp draft picks)... problem was 100-110% qualifying offers.
Jester said:"Drafts are about immediate results..."
that is perhaps the stupidest thing i've ever read. how many draft picks play in the NHL the next year? VERY VERY small percentage. I would be shocked if the average is 20% of the first round plays the next year.
the draft is ALL about future results.
Jester said:"
if someone can come up with a method that actually relates teams from pre-lockout to post-lockout accounting for the fact that something like 50% of the league is going have contractual expiration over the time between NHL games, i'm all ears. i just don't think you can do it.
One method that MAY be fair would be to take the league and divide it into thirds, with each third recieving the same weight in the lottery. however, how do you weight someone like Washington? who knows how good Ovechkin would have been this year... how about Atlanta, they were primed with the potential of being a force last year if their young players really came together?
it really isn't so easy to do this... especially with the player movement. players are another year older. all sorts of things. teams fall apart quickly, happens every year.
And in the Yankees market he would be completely invisible. Jagr, Lindros, Leetch, Richter, Kovalev, Messier all played in obscurity in Manhattan and did nothing for hockey or the league in New York.Tawnos said:Stephen, how exactly would it be a disaster for Crosby to end up in NY? Or LA? Or even Chicago? To have Crosby maximize league-wide interest, he needs to be somewhere visible.
Mayor of MacAppolis said:Completely agree. There were a lot of problems, but the teams that played by the rules and ran their businesses in efficient ways, shouldn't be punished for it. Toronto did not do anything they couldn't afford.
If the league were to rig anything it would be to keep Crosby away from the Yankees media market. He would never get a backpage in New York with any of the three teams because the major journalists are not interested in hockey players.FangFingers said:im all for a random draft order.
If Crosby ends up in toronto or New York, so be it. As long as the league doesnt rig it.
MLH said:Yeah, I'm aware.
The odds that good teams from last year would all of the sudden tank aren't likely. .
NYIsles1 said:If the league were to rig anything it would be to keep Crosby away from the Yankees media market. He would never get a backpage in New York with any of the three teams because the major journalists are not interested in hockey players.
ColoradoHockeyFan said:On the Fan 590 just now, Howard Berger reported that the GMs had just wrapped up a meeting at about 2pm EST, and that the debate over how to conduct the draft was both "lively" and "contentious." He said this was highlighted by John Ferguson declaring outright that he firmly believes that the Leafs and other top teams deserve a fully equal chance at drafting Crosby.
salzy said:LMAO! John Ferguson? Are there 5 GMs in the league who have less pull than he does? Pipe down rookie!