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TSN 1050 said some Rangers fans think they will get Kessel for Zuccarello
Sure thing. Zuccarello++++++++
FA/Trade Thread 14-15 Season V.22, 1 Days to TDD, Anything is possible.
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Sure thing. Zuccarello++++++++
Trapper
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What does management believe?
People need to relax.
Has Bernier been traded? What was the return?
Canada4Gold
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TSN 1050 said some Rangers fans think they will get Kessel for Zuccarello
McDonagh is coming with right?
Personally, I do and I feel that it will be one of the worst decisions we'll make trading him for anything barring a MASSIVE overpayment. Goalies never garner anything close to what their impact is in trades. It is stupid asset management and we may take years before we'll find someone his caliber again. We've been looking for almost a decade for a great goalie and now that we've finally found him (for cheap even), we're going to trade him away for scraps? And yes, a low 1st is scraps considering his potential impact on the team.
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So what you're saying is you'd move anyone on the team for a 3rd. and a decent prospect.
They're the 4th. worst team in the league, name one player moving the team forward? They're going backwards!
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The only reason why I would be hesitant to trade Bernier is because what if he can eventually play like Tuukka Rask? It's bad enough when Leafs fans are reminded again and again that they traded him, because last night Glenn Healy brought him up. So what if the Leafs trade Bernier and he becomes a great #1 Goalie? Now if they get some great offer that they can't refuse like Edmonton's own 1st round pick in 2015 then I say go for it, because that's the type of return I would want to see if he is traded.
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I don't think he was pulled. It was an optional skate and left after the drills
http://starsblog.dallasnews.com/201...e-for-interesting-evening-against-ducks.html/
Based on Vermette..
It has to be more than a 3rd or he would already be gone to Vancouver.The Leafs have a price for him, if it isn't met he gets traded at the draft to Edmonton.
It has to be more than a 3rd or he would already be gone to Vancouver.The Leafs have a price for him, if it isn't met he gets traded at the draft to Edmonton.
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Totally this. We've been burned far too many times before, now that we're finally willing to move in the right direction, let's not take 1 step forward and 2 steps back.
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Why in every trade proposal you throw in nylander
He is one of the few bright spots of young potential players in our system but you want to include him for Draitsil
Why don't we keep nylander and draft strome and then have two very good young potential players for the long term
Leon isn't ant better of a centre than strome
They are both prospects and have proven nothing
Stupid idea to trade nylander at this point in his career
Not saying he's untouchable but it would have to be a trade that knocked our socks off and for Leon that's not worth it
I'd say this is a bit different. We traded Rask when he was far younger then Bernier is now (they are a year apart). If this team think's it needs 2-3 years to build a core, then what's the point of keeping Bernier?
If Bernier was even 2-3 years younger, I'd say no way in hell should we look into trading him, but the guy is turning 27 this calender year. Depends on the game plan.
Goalies generally last longer. Also, he'll only be about 31/32 when we potentially become competitive. I don't see why that is a problem. I'd rather keep him than trading him for something that most likely won't give us much of an impact.
ULF_55
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Kadri was drafted 2009, and he's still learning how to play center.
If this year the Leafs can draft a 1st. line center, in 5-6 years when he's Kadri's age Bernier would be 32-33.
Now if the Leafs are looking at keeping Kessel, and perhaps using Phaneuf and their 1st. this year to grab a 1st. line center, you keep Bernier.
But they aren't shopping him, but they are listening to offers for him. There is a difference. He's not an untouchable, I'm guessing it was have to be a good deal.
What if a current contender had a hot-shot keeper in the minors, but wanted an older guy for now? Bernier and Bozak for Gibson type of deal.
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The Oilers arent trading for any more small forwards. Any rumour that contains Nylander and Drais is a fabrication. Leon is the attempt to add size up front. They are seriously more like to trade RNH. They have been talking about getting bigger for two years and the names that come up are Yak, and Eberle.
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LeafsNation75
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I would want Edmonton's 1st round pick instead. Chances are that Nashville 1st round pick the Leafs have will be between 26th - 30th overall and depending how the Penguins do in the playoffs, their 1st round pick could be in the same area.
PITS 1st
EDM 2nd
Bernier
anything less and id walk away
again you need goaltending during a rebuild to develop and grow a young team just as much as contender needs one to go far and win the cup. The entire confidence of any team stems from the goaltending position.
So no you don't move him. Consider yourself lucky to have a goaltender of his ability during a rebuild. Other wise your spinning your tires going nowhere with the so called rebuild until you get one. Just ask Edmonton or even Florida why they traded for Luongo. It's the most important position in hockey regardless of the status of a team. Your not building towards anything until you get a goalie and your not winning anything until you get a goalie. The Leafs have a good one don't need to turn into Philly
more likely...
Edmonton's pick(3rd?),Pitts first,2nd for Bozak, our pick(4th) and Bernier.
PITS 1st
EDM 2nd
Bernier
anything less and id walk away
Edmonton's pick(3rd?),Pitts first,2nd for Bozak, our pick(4th) and Bernier.
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There is no need for the Leafs to trade Bernier. So the only kind of payment would be our 1st+ Bernier for Oilers 1st.
And since the answer would be no, we can move onto trading Kessel/Phaneuf please.
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