Prospect Info: Everything Swedish Part 2

[FabricDetails]

I have high hopes for niederbach. True playmaking center potential there.

What about William Eklund?

 

[golffuul]

What about William Eklund?

I wouldn't be surprised if we are looking at him, thinking we won't get the 1st OA pick.

 

[ArmChairGM89]

I wouldn't be surprised if we are looking at him, thinking we won't get the 1st OA pick.

I wouldn’t rule him out as our guy at 1

 

[DInTheB]

 

[Christien]

What’s the timeline for Raymond’s return? He should be back for the playoffs, no?

 

[golffuul]

I wouldn’t rule home out as our guy at 1

Yeah...Eklund has really been improving and is the only one of the top 3 or 4 that has had a full year of development versus a shortened, abbreviated, or stop&start season

 

[ArmChairGM89]

Yeah...Eklund has really been improving and is the only one of the top 3 or 4 that has had a full year of development versus a shortened, abbreviated, or stop&start season

Yzerman has shown a real high comfort level leaning on the European scouts. Could be even more so this year.

 

[FabricDetails]

Anyone have easy access to that full list? :-D

 

[Henkka]

Berggren now 2nd behind only Henrik Sedin in assists by a U21 forward.

Are these former top seasons from the Sedins, Forsberg and Pettersson?

 

[1878rgw]

Anyone have easy access to that full list? :-D

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Elite Prospects - SHL Stats All-time season

 

[Killerjas]

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Elite Prospects - SHL Stats All-time season

Seeing this list makes me sad...
Top 3 David Rundblad... This kid was so good, just couldn't defend and never developed on his offensive skills.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I have no idea how Rundblad busted. The rest of that list is a very talented group.

I think that bodes well that Berggren’s name is up there with Kent Nilsson, Zetterberg, the Sedins, Forsberg. Even Lindblom is a pretty good player who looks like he’s got 40-50 point potential in Philly.

 

[Hen Kolland]

What’s the timeline for Raymond’s return? He should be back for the playoffs, no?

No. From what I recall, the timeline was different depending which source you heard from, but the one reported on from the Wings from the very beginning implied that the absolute best case would be as the playoffs were ending in Sweden, and likely his return would be after the playoffs were completed.

 

[Frk It]

Give me Berggren and Seider next year. We better give them good minutes, too.

 

[newfy]

Give me Berggren and Seider next year. We better give them good minutes, too.

Seider will be full time for sure. I sometimes wonder if Berggren and Raymond wont be flanking Veleno on the top line in Grand Rapids, at least to start the season

 

[Christoph53]

Seider will be full time for sure. I sometimes wonder if Berggren and Raymond wont be flanking Veleno on the top line in Grand Rapids, at least to start the season

If that's the case...
How much is the AHL TV package for one season?

 

[Frk It]

Seider will be full time for sure. I sometimes wonder if Berggren and Raymond wont be flanking Veleno on the top line in Grand Rapids, at least to start the season

I would be OK with Raymond/Veleno starting in GR, but I think Berggren ready for a top 9 role next year. I would really like to see him playing opposite Zadina.

 

[ArmChairGM89]

I would be OK with Raymond/Veleno starting in GR, but I think Berggren ready for a top 9 role next year. I would really like to see him playing opposite Zadina.

Raymond-valeno-berggren would be so fun though. I’d be all GR next year.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

Berggren still looks pretty smol to me. Obviously I'd love to see all our prospects on the Wings roster asap, but I'm not sure he's physically ready to cope with NHL hockey.

 

[ArmChairGM89]

Berggren still looks pretty smol to me. Obviously I'd love to see all our prospects on the Wings roster asap, but I'm not sure he's physically ready to cope with NHL hockey.

The ahl is more physical than the nhl.

 

[wingerdinger]

Raymond-valeno-berggren would be so fun though. I’d be all GR next year.

dont know if the line would work. Raymond and berggren's games are too similar imo, they both are at their best when they are the majority puck playing forward on their lineup and they might get in each others way. I'd much prefer putting say Grewe in Berggren's spot. Thats a very well balanced line with a little bit of everything on it.

That Raymond/Valeno combo could be incredible their playing styles compliment each others so well. Then they got Albin to do all the grunt work.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

The ahl is more physical than the nhl.

True. It's also slower and less skilled though. I think there's an argument for Berggren to play in any of Sweden/Grand Rapids/Detroit next year. I think he's going to face some growing pains in NA hockey, I wouldn't mind him going through that in Grand Rapids where there's less of a microscope on him and he can step into a bigger first-line/PP1 role.

 

[ArmChairGM89]

True. It's also slower and less skilled though. I think there's an argument for Berggren to play in any of Sweden/Grand Rapids/Detroit next year. I think he's going to face some growing pains in NA hockey, I wouldn't mind him going through that in Grand Rapids where there's less of a microscope on him and he can step into a bigger first-line/PP1 role.

I agree there will be growing pains. I don’t follow conventional wisdom in terms of always starting players in the AHL. I think they are such different leagues it doesn’t necessarily result in preparing all player properly for the nhl game.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

I agree there will be growing pains. I don’t follow conventional wisdom in terms of always starting players in the AHL. I think they are such different leagues it doesn’t necessarily result in preparing all player properly for the nhl game.

Yeah that's fair, I think there are solid arguments for Berggren playing in each league honestly.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I just don't get the logic of some posters on this board. Some people here are clamoring for Raymond to come play in the NHL next year when he's barely strong enough at 18 to handle the SHL. Yet 20 year old Berggren who is stronger and faster than Raymond and ALSO top 10 in SHL scoring should either stay in the SHL or go to the AHL to get stronger?

Berggren has proven all he can prove in the SHL. Detroit has a number of open spots next year and is bereft of talent. The kid should absolutely start the season in Detroit, and if he clearly can't handle it THEN maybe a trip to Grand Rapids or a loan back to Sweden.

WTF does Berggren have to do for some Detroit fans to think he belongs in the league? Win multiple SHL MVP after a string of top 5 scoring seasons and make the jump at the age of 25?