Prospect Info: Everything Swedish Part 2

[Henkka]

So Rögle has played all the regular season games (at 52 total), but some teams have 4 games still left?

 

[Prntscrn]

So Rögle has played all the regular season games (at 52 total), but some teams have 4 games still left?

Yeah, it's been a weird season with Covid outbreaks in some teams and games having to be postponed.

 

[FabricDetails]

It’s not that lofty. Seider would be a good defenseman in the nhl right now, the only reason he’s not is because he’s a prospect. So if he’s the number 1 D prospect outside the nhl wouldnt a non prospect D that’s better than him already be in the league?

Could be. My mind is still in the days where not all the best players are in the NHL. Like Datsyuk still could have played a few more seasons.

 

[ArmChairGM89]

Could be. My mind is still in the days where not all the best players are in the NHL. Like Datsyuk still could have played a few more seasons.

Sure, I guess I don’t care much what a non nhl 40 year old is doing.

 

[Henkka]

It’s not that lofty. Seider would be a good defenseman in the nhl right now, the only reason he’s not is because he’s a prospect. So if he’s the number 1 D prospect outside the nhl wouldnt a non prospect D that’s better than him already be in the league?

It depends does the team try to TANK or not.

 

[ridilon]

So Rögle has played all the regular season games (at 52 total), but some teams have 4 games still left?

Everyone catches up by next Saturday. Unless more shutdowns from rampant doorknob licking by Malmo et. al.

 

[lhsgolf19]

Pure filth from Veleno


That stick lift is dirty

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Pure filth from Veleno


That stick lift is dirty

His wheels keep looking better and better.

I'm picturing Beniers, Larkin and Veleno down the middle in 2 seasons and I'm totally fine with that setup. That is a fast, tenacious group of centers.

 

[Gniwder]

Pure filth from Veleno


That stick lift is dirty

That whole sequence is filthy, he made the goalie look like Howie in a SO.

Stick handling at full speed is something that will definitely translate to the NHL. Sweet goal, thanks for posting it.

 

[DInTheB]

 

[FabricDetails]

So who leads the SHL in hits? (Since Seider is 2nd)

 

[Pavels Dog]

So who leads the SHL in hits? (Since Seider is 2nd)

Oscar Engsund, 27 year old physical D with not much talent otherwise. Seider has more hits/game though.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

These are pretty helpful insights into Seider's season. That chunk of season he missed with the shoulder injury really derailed it. Glad to see he had such a great season in the SHL but I'd have loved to see him own the record for most points in a season by an under 20 defenseman.

 

[Pavels Dog]

These are pretty helpful insights into Seider's season. That chunk of season he missed with the shoulder injury really derailed it. Glad to see he had such a great season in the SHL but I'd have loved to see him own the record for most points in a season by an under 20 defenseman.

That shot rate curve towards the end of the season looks INSANE to me.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

That shot rate curve towards the end of the season looks INSANE to me.

2 of the biggest complaints about Seider were needs to work on his shot, and needs to shoot more. That chart is telling us he was doing just that.

 

[Henkka]

That shot rate curve towards the end of the season looks INSANE to me.

It seems to be, that the highest shot rate will happen on a period, when Gelinas was injured. So he had to replace the MAIN power-play / offensive threat.

At same time, when the shot rate goes high, his GAA goes up. So it looks like he took more resposibility for offence (because Gelinas was out), and played less defensively, and his new partner was weaker too than Gelinas+Seider together.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

It seems to be, that the highest shot rate will happen on a period, when Gelinas was injured. So he had to replace the MAIN power-play / offensive threat.

At same time, when the shot rate goes high, his GAA goes up. So it looks like he took more resposibility for offence (because Gelinas was out), and played less defensively, and his new partner was weaker too than Gelinas+Seider together.

That's a part of it. Also Rogle had a few injuries and they lost an important piece in Hoglander to the Canucks later in the season.

 

[lhsgolf19]

 

[Pavels Dog]

Berggren now 2nd behind only Henrik Sedin in assists by a U21 forward.

Pretty crazy end to Färjestad-Skellefteå. Färjestad up 3-1, but Skellefteå scores twice in the last 30 seconds with the goalie pulled to tie it up. OT now.

 

[ArmChairGM89]

Be pretty cool if berggren turns into our late later pick that overachieves and becomes that star for us. Ala brayden point/etc.

cautiously optimistic

 

[golffuul]

Be pretty cool if berggren turns into our late later pick that overachieves and becomes that star for us. Ala brayden point/etc.

cautiously optimistic

Would love for Veleno, Berggren, and Johansson to pan out for us in the next year or two. And Soderstrom/Niederbach in 2-3 years.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Berggren now 2nd behind only Henrik Sedin in assists by a U21 forward.

Pretty crazy end to Färjestad-Skellefteå. Färjestad up 3-1, but Skellefteå scores twice in the last 30 seconds with the goalie pulled to tie it up. OT now.

Farjestad ended up winning in the end but it was a fun game. No points for Johansson today and he wasn't very visible, but that's not a bad thing as a defenseman.

Berggren is pretty underrated around these boards and I think he may be neck and neck with Raymond when ranking our prospects. 45 points in 49 games in the SHL is amazing and should keep him at 5th or 6th most in the league when all the other teams finish their seasons. I can't wait to see him in a winged wheel next season.

 

[ArmChairGM89]

Would love for Veleno, Berggren, and Johansson to pan out for us in the next year or two. And Soderstrom/Niederbach in 2-3 years.

I have high hopes for niederbach. True playmaking center potential there.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I have high hopes for niederbach. True playmaking center potential there.

The skill package is there for sure, but the skating could keep him from making it. If he were a step or two faster then the kid could have been a first rounder in 2020. I'm cautiously optimistic about him.

 

[Slim]

I have high hopes for niederbach. True playmaking center potential there.

I hope you are right, although I feel somewhat less bullish on Niederbach and I am not sure at all about Soderstrom, but if everything aligns perfectly, who knows?

With that said, I do feel extremely positive about Seider (I know we need to see him in NHL, but I have zilch doubt that he will become something very special), Johansson and Berggren will surprise a lot of people and will be considered text book examples of wicked draft steals one day. I also believe Raymond has a great chance to reach his potential and will be an important player on the Wings.

I am quitely very confident that we will have a really spiffy and exciting team within 3-5 years. I do not share the ever changing hysteria that permeates this board when it comes to our rebuild. It is like everyone intellectually surely understands the concept of a rebuild and how to do it correctly, but after a few months the patience and reason has retreated in favour of whimsical, reactionary takes that changes every week, depending on what a certain player did in one game. This is not a very competent or succesful approach to anything in life.