Prospect Info: Everything Swedish Part 2

[Christoph53]

Great write-up from everyone´s favourite Twitter person "IcehockeyGifs" on our prospects in Sweden.

Definitely worth a read.

 

[wingerdinger]

Great write-up from everyone´s favourite Twitter person "IcehockeyGifs" on our prospects in Sweden.

Definitely worth a read.

A very good read with a lot truths, i do think he's a bit harsh on veleno especially his intangibles when i think Joe's willingness to play over in sweden shows a lot to me imo. He always seems well liked and willing to do the job the coach asks of him id give him a 4.

other little nitpicks, Berggren's skating is electric to me both in speed and agility i'd have it at a 4.25.

Johansson's shot is an absolute weapon id give it a 4.

Soderblum's skating definately needs work but overall isnt that bad. More than anything he needs better balance and strength so he doesnt tumble over so much I'd give a 2.5.

 

[Christoph53]

A very good read with a lot truths, i do think he's a bit harsh on veleno especially his intangibles when i think his willingness to play over in sweden shows a lot to me imo. He always seems well liked and willing to do the job the coach asks of him id give him a 4.

other little nitpicks, Berggren's skating is electric to me both in speed and agility i'd have it at a 4.25.

Johansson's shot is an absolute weapon id give it a 4.

Soderblum's skating definately needs work but overall isnt that bad. More than anything he needs better balance and strength so he doesnt tumble over so much I'd give a 2.5.

Absolutely agree on Veleno, Berggren and Johansson

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

A very good read with a lot truths, i do think he's a bit harsh on veleno especially his intangibles when i think his willingness to play over in sweden shows a lot to me imo. He always seems well liked and willing to do the job the coach asks of him id give him a 4.

other little nitpicks, Berggren's skating is electric to me both in speed and agility i'd have it at a 4.25.

Johansson's shot is an absolute weapon id give it a 4.

Soderblum's skating definately needs work but overall isnt that bad. More than anything he needs better balance and strength so he doesnt tumble over so much I'd give a 2.5.

Same. I'd even give Mo a 4/5 in skill instead of the 3.5/5 he graded him at. He's not stickhandling like Berggren but the guy's hand-eye coordination allows him to make really difficult plays look so simple. Mo also does a great job skating the puck through the neutral zone, weaving through traffic like a guy 5 inches shorter.

Veleno has definitely become much better defensively in Malmo's system. I'd say he's better than Berggren in that area but not as good as Raymond. 3/5 for me. Always a hard worker and always seems to have the right attitude. At least a 3/5 for intangibles.

Soderblom's shot is a totally underrated part of his game, IMO. I think most of his analysis is spot on but what I saw of Soderblom last season in highlights and what I've seen at the WJC and in Frolunda is that he's got a wrister that will find the net from 45 feet in anywere in the zone. Very heavy, good release. 3.5/5, and I think with more icetime in Frolunda he'll prove that.

 

[newfy]

Berggren has proven all he can prove in the SHL. Detroit has a number of open spots next year and is bereft of talent. The kid should absolutely start the season in Detroit, and if he clearly can't handle it THEN maybe a trip to Grand Rapids or a loan back to Sweden.

WTF does Berggren have to do for some Detroit fans to think he belongs in the league? Win multiple SHL MVP after a string of top 5 scoring seasons and make the jump at the age of 25?

I think Berggren belongs in NA for sure next year but I'm not ready to say he has to start in Detroit. A lot of people seem to be overstating what he has done. Hes missed a bunch of development time and had literally only good season since his draft. Does that mean he cant make Detroit next year? No obviously not. But lets let him come play one game on north american ice at the very least before we decide he absolutely has to make Detroit right away

 

[odin1981]

I'm really excited to see him in the AHL at worst but I hope he plays for the Wings next year. His season was absolutely amazing.

 

[Gniwder]

I think Berggren belongs in NA for sure next year but I'm not ready to say he has to start in Detroit. A lot of people seem to be overstating what he has done. Hes missed a bunch of development time and had literally only good season since his draft. Does that mean he cant make Detroit next year? No obviously not. But lets let him come play one game on north american ice at the very least before we decide he absolutely has to make Detroit right away

Can't be worse than Brome, right?

My concern is his strength, that's about the only reason why I'd think he should start in GR.

 

[newfy]

Can't be worse than Brome, right?

My concern is his strength, that's about the only reason why I'd think he should start in GR.

I would almost guarantee he wont be worse than Brome lol.

But allowing him to go to the AHL and say hey, we dont care if you score, we just want you down here so you can pack on some muscle in the gym and get used to NA ice for a half a season... it could help him a lot in the future. Give him his call ups and get him into some games but dont necessarily have to pencil him into the top 6 asap like some want to.

All that is being said theoretically though. He could add weight in the summer and have no problem with NA ice, then just come and light up training camp. I would say sure toss him into the lineup. But hes not some guaranteed, must be in the NHL type prospect. Hes had one good season post draft

 

[Pavels Dog]

But hes not some guaranteed, must be in the NHL type prospect. Hes had one good season post draft

Why are we the only team in the league that only plays those kind of prospects in the NHL..

Höglander was only okay in SHL - stepped right into Vancouver
Björnfot was only okay in SHL - stepped right into LA.

Berggren's season has been great. He fits a need on our roster. It would be a real shame to just postpone this rebuild indefinitely by requiring every kid to have multiple dominant years at lower levels before we bring them in.

 

[Filppula]

Great write-up from everyone´s favourite Twitter person "IcehockeyGifs" on our prospects in Sweden.

Definitely worth a read.

Holy moly is Raymond a 4th overall or a 4th round??

 

[Killerjas]

Holy moly is Raymond a 4th overall or a 4th round??

I think he is too harsh on Raymond

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

A very good read with a lot truths, i do think he's a bit harsh on veleno especially his intangibles when i think Joe's willingness to play over in sweden shows a lot to me imo. He always seems well liked and willing to do the job the coach asks of him id give him a 4.

other little nitpicks, Berggren's skating is electric to me both in speed and agility i'd have it at a 4.25.

Johansson's shot is an absolute weapon id give it a 4.

Soderblum's skating definately needs work but overall isnt that bad. More than anything he needs better balance and strength so he doesnt tumble over so much I'd give a 2.5.

His critique of Veleno's intangibles have nothing to with intangibles. So that's silly.

I think he is too harsh on Raymond

This too. I've watched a lot of Raymond this season, his evaluation is pretty far off in my opinion, frankly.

 

[Pavels Dog]

we all know none of our prospects are less than a 4/5 in any category.

 

[Filppula]

we all know none of our prospects are less than a 4/5 in any category.

Unnecessary.

 

[Eye of Ra]

"Physicality: 2/5 - Joe doesn't engage much physically and doesn't show the best ability to go into the tough areas. He doesn't look weak on the ice, but he sometimes seems disengaged rather than finishing checks and crashing the net."


Ehm what? He does play the body quite often here in SHL. I seen almost all his games.

 

[wingerdinger]

"Physicality: 2/5 - Joe doesn't engage much physically and doesn't show the best ability to go into the tough areas. He doesn't look weak on the ice, but he sometimes seems disengaged rather than finishing checks and crashing the net."


Ehm what? He does play the body quite often here in SHL. I seen almost all his games.

joe's very willing to battle it out in the corners.

 

[WingsToPick4th]

If we get lucky with next years lottery, we could be pretty nasty in 2 years

Raymond - Wright - Zadina
Bertuzzi - Larkin - Mantha
Berrgren - Veleno - Svechnikov
Smith - Rasmussen - Erne

Power/Hughes - Seider
DDK/? - Hronek
Merill/? - Stecher

FA
Bernier

This team would be a playoff team and a solid one imo

 

[Pavels Dog]

Joe’s injured. Missing his 2nd game in a row now. Don’t think it’s serious though.

Albert Johansson’s team fired their coaches, weird timing with playoffs days away. Kind of a panic move I guess.

 

[newfy]

Why are we the only team in the league that only plays those kind of prospects in the NHL..

Höglander was only okay in SHL - stepped right into Vancouver
Björnfot was only okay in SHL - stepped right into LA.

Berggren's season has been great. He fits a need on our roster. It would be a real shame to just postpone this rebuild indefinitely by requiring every kid to have multiple dominant years at lower levels before we bring them in.

Ok so he comes over. Looks weak and overmatched in training camp/preseason, we dont even consdier letting him adjust to the NA rink in grand rapids for twenty games? Hes just automatically pencilled in when hes already missed a tonne of training time the past couple years?

 

[Frk It]

Why are we the only team in the league that only plays those kind of prospects in the NHL..

Höglander was only okay in SHL - stepped right into Vancouver
Björnfot was only okay in SHL - stepped right into LA.

Berggren's season has been great. He fits a need on our roster. It would be a real shame to just postpone this rebuild indefinitely by requiring every kid to have multiple dominant years at lower levels before we bring them in.

Right, this is what I'm saying.

 

[ChadS]

Joe’s injured. Missing his 2nd game in a row now. Don’t think it’s serious though.

I read something about him getting sick just before their last game, not 100% sure though.

Looks like Setkov is back in Malmö, so season not over yet after all.

 

[lhsgolf19]

 

[Christoph53]

A few nice and interesting quotes in this video (courtesy of IceHockeyGifs on youtube)

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

If we get lucky with next years lottery, we could be pretty nasty in 2 years

Raymond - Wright - Zadina
Bertuzzi - Larkin - Mantha
Berrgren - Veleno - Svechnikov
Smith - Rasmussen - Erne

Power/Hughes - Seider
DDK/? - Hronek
Merill/? - Stecher

FA
Bernier

This team would be a playoff team and a solid one imo

a lot to be excited about no matter how bleak it looks rn

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

The Gifted: The untapped potential of Red Wings prospect William Wallinder

And then there's the other Swede. Really nice article. Tons of clips. You're pretty much guaranteed to come away feeling hyped.