Speculation: Eichel Mega Thread IV

[Crazy Joe Divola]

I never said I think they’d do it. I was just saying they could.

i think they could even without Eklund. I’d expect them to try to atleast with DW’s history. Not saying it’ll be the best offer but wouldn’t be shocked if they are in the mix atleast.

 

[Gritty]

Would you offer all 4 assets + Monahan? That should easily do it for Buffalo. If I were a Flames fan, I wouldn't, just gauging interest.

No, not all four.
I would do a combination of said assets though.

Monahan, 2022 1st, 2023 1st and Dube (I think this is a solid offer. Monahan could be dealt for more futures too)
Monahan 2022 1st, Pelletier, Valimaki

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

i think they could even without Eklund. I’d expect them to try to atleast with DW’s history. Not saying it’ll be the best offer but wouldn’t be shocked if they are in the mix atleast.

I would posit that Meier would have zero value to them. Maybe if you flipped Hertl for a good prospect or a 1st + and then added a fair amount to that.

 

[IGGY2JOHNNY]

Eklund + Labanc + 2022 1st would be a good place to start. They shouldn’t but they probably could.

Calgary I think could make a decent package and they’ve got space.

It’s down to ANA/CGY for me. If I’m a betting man: 2022 1st + Pelletier + Monahan + lesser peice will get it done

been pumping Monohan + Pelletier/Zary + Kylington + 2022 1st for weeks!!

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Eklund + Labanc + 2022 1st would be a good place to start. They shouldn’t but they probably could.

Calgary I think could make a decent package and they’ve got space.

It’s down to ANA/CGY for me. If I’m a betting man: 2022 1st + Pelletier + Monahan + lesser peice will get it done

Probably Zary over Pelletier since Buffalo will want a Center prospect.
My guess would be Monahan (maybe moved to a 3rd team) + Dube + Zary + 2022 1st
Then maybe some conditional picks or another mid prospect

 

[Crazy Joe Divola]

I would posit that Meier would have zero value to them. Maybe if you flipped Hertl for a good prospect or a 1st + and then added a fair amount to that.

i don’t see anyone finding a way to value Meier at zero, even if you’re set at wing Last season wasn’t good but the entire team was a dumpster fire led by our league worst goalies. He’s only a couple years removed from 30 goals 65+ points and is only 24.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

i don’t see anyone finding a way to value Meier at zero, even if you’re set at wing Last season wasn’t good but the entire team was a dumpster fire led by our league worst goalies. He’s only a couple years removed from 30 goals 65+ points and is only 24.

The guy has like a 10M qualifying offer, no? Why would they pay him that in a few years when they’re rebuilding, even if he does return to form. I don’t think many teams would extend that QO.

 

[Double Dion]

Buffalo overplayed their hand here big time. More and more teams dropping out. The return won't be close to what they were hoping. Kings are out, now Vegas. Who is left? Rags and Ducks?

 

[Crazy Joe Divola]

The guy has like a 10M qualifying offer, no? Why would they pay him that in a few years when they’re rebuilding, even if he does return to form. I don’t think many teams would extend that QO.

so extend him before the QO. It’s not rocket surgery.

 

[KrakenSabresMike]

Buffalo overplayed their hand here big time. More and more teams dropping out. The return won't be close to what they were hoping. Kings are out, now Vegas. Who is left? Rags and Ducks?

If it’s not he gets traded next year - just because we’re all impatient doesn’t line up with FACTS. And when he lights it up again then what will you have to pay ??? Or we he even be available abd good luck finding an elite star center. The only way we lose is trading him at low value too early

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

The guy has like a 10M qualifying offer, no? Why would they pay him that in a few years when they’re rebuilding, even if he does return to form. I don’t think many teams would extend that QO.

If San Jose files for arbitration it ignores the QO but the minimum the player can be awarded is 85% of the previous years pay. So San Jose can in theory sign him for 8.5M

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

so extend him before the QO. It’s not rocket surgery.

Yeah, and then he accepts it and you’re paying him 10M.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

If San Jose files for arbitration it ignores the QO but the minimum the player can be awarded is 85% of the previous years pay. So San Jose can in theory sign him for 8.5M

I gotcha. Wasn’t sure the exact numbers, I just knew it was a lot more than the Sabres would want to pay while they’re rebuilding.

 

[Crazy Joe Divola]

If it’s not he gets traded next year - just because we’re all impatient doesn’t line up with FACTS. And when he lights it up again then what will you have to pay ??? Or we he even be available abd good luck finding an elite star center. The only way we lose is trading him at low value too early

would he sit out if he can’t get the surgery he wants? Don’t know enough about the situation to speculate one way or another but if he’s legitimately concerned for his health W/O the surgery he’s got enough money to sit out.

hard to imagine a scenario where things improve for Buffalo if it gets to training camp and he’s a no-show.

 

[Double Dion]

If it’s not he gets traded next year - just because we’re all impatient doesn’t line up with FACTS. And when he lights it up again then what will you have to pay ??? Or we he even be available abd good luck finding an elite star center. The only way we lose is trading him at low value too early

Eichel isn't an elite star center. He's a legitimate #1, but he's not in anyone smarts top 10.

Do you suppose his value goes up with a year less control? Will he play for you or sit out a year? What happens to his value if he sits? If he plays and plays well you don't get one of the 3 franchise players available, if he plays poorly value drops more.

Buffalo needed to make the move before free agency opened. They've lost all leverage now.

 

[threeVo]

Eichel isn't an elite star center. He's a legitimate #1, but he's not in anyone smarts top 10.

Do you suppose his value goes up with a year less control? Will he play for you or sit out a year? What happens to his value if he sits? If he plays and plays well you don't get one of the 3 franchise players available, if he plays poorly value drops more.

Buffalo needed to make the move before free agency opened. They've lost all leverage now.

Throw out last season with injuries and hes absolutely of the the top 10 centers in the league

 

[The don godfather]

Eichel isn't an elite star center. He's a legitimate #1, but he's not in anyone smarts top 10.

Do you suppose his value goes up with a year less control? Will he play for you or sit out a year? What happens to his value if he sits? If he plays and plays well you don't get one of the 3 franchise players available, if he plays poorly value drops more.

Buffalo needed to make the move before free agency opened. They've lost all leverage now.

I would have moved him at draft and they could have picked up a good player. Still not too late.

 

[bsu]

Signed Craig Anderson to trade to Ducks for Gibson in Eichel package.

 

[Double Dion]

Throw out last season with injuries and hes absolutely of the the top 10 centers in the league

McDavid, Draisaitl, Mackinnon, Crosby, Barkov, Aho, Matthews, Point, Bergeron. Which ones is he better than?

 

[Double Dion]

I would have moved him at draft and they could have picked up a good player. Still not too late.

Too late to maximize the return. Only 2 teams left that have the pieces and are interested.

 

[Qward]

Buffalo overplayed their hand here big time. More and more teams dropping out. The return won't be close to what they were hoping. Kings are out, now Vegas. Who is left? Rags and Ducks?

 

[Sota Popinski]

How could Adams turn a offer like that down lol

How about Fiala + Rask + Rossi + Wallstedt/Lambos/2022 1st?

 

[The don godfather]

Too late to maximize the return. Only 2 teams left that have the pieces and are interested.

They still can get a haul for him if not hold on to him wait for another trade deadline.

 

[Double Dion]

They could, but haven't been on the list of interested teams. They definitely have the young pieces though.

 

[Kublakhan]

You guys on the last couple pages are really out to lunch with your offers... Just stop