Dressing Sheep in Wolves Clothing (Mod Warning page 35)

[BruinsFanSince94]

Connor Brickley also younger and bigger than Roussel

I see Roussel listed between 5'11''-6'0'' and 200 lbs. so I wouldn't say he's really bigger. He is younger though. That said, Roussel is the more proven player and it's not close.

 

[DrJustice]

Matt Martin

4 years, $10M equaling $2.5M AAV

Hows that working out for Toronto?

 

[Fenian24]

Brickley's a good role player but a pretty long way from a "wolf" that they could count on over guys like Kuraly/Acciari. I mean if they need a 13th forward I guess he'd be fine, but it doesn't really address the issue here.

McKenzie isn't an NHL player at this point.
Roussel's ship sailed on this organization a while ago.
Wagner or Grant would be alright if they need some utility grit but I don't think I'd call either of them "wolves"

I believe McKenzie would be another Schaller but more physical, tougher and with a lot more of an edge to his game.

Passing on Roussel was a mistake but he is the type of player that the posters who dont want a " one dimensional" physical player want

 

[Glove Malfunction]

I think we could probably lure Alex Semin out of retirement

This guy?

I can hear Ryan reaves quaking in his boots now.

 

[BruinDust]

I believe McKenzie would be another Schaller but more physical, tougher and with a lot more of an edge to his game.

Passing on Roussel was a mistake but he is the type of player that the posters who dont want a " one dimensional" physical player want

Honestly Fenian what type of contract do you expect Roussell to get this summer? Because at 28-29 years old and a half decent resume, he's probably going to get a pretty decent offer from someone. Same with Ryan Reaves, someone will give him a pretty decent offer as a fairly unique commodity.

After the Belesky and Backes signings, the Bruins need to stay away from UFA bidding wars for players lacking in skill and skating ability but heavy on intangibles.

 

[sarge88]

Last 2 goals..


Wilson

Reaves

Lol

Useless plugs who can’t skate.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

Last 2 goals..


Wilson

Reaves

Lol

Useless plugs who can’t skate.

Some people are absolutely dying inside.

I've quite enjoyed seeing their transition here from "useless plugs" who "can't skate/play" to being guys who would have been "too expensive to acquire anyway".

Can't have them on the Bruins because they suck and now we can't have them on the Bruins because they are too good. It's a shame.

 

[sarge88]

Some people are absolutely dying inside.

I've quite enjoyed seeing their transition here from "useless plugs" who "can't skate/play" to being guys who would have been "too expensive to acquire anyway".

Can't have them on the Bruins because they suck and now we can't have them on the Bruins because they are too good. It's a shame.

I love both guys, and I’m certainly not saying you can fill a lineup with them, but there is still a place for guys whose best skills are not their legs or ability to pass and shoot.

 

[LouJersey]

Figured there would be a huge line in here for a crow sandwich, but nary a peep. Atleast the ryan reaves is a useless hockey player comments have stopped.

Should have been called for a crosscheck, but they let them play at times in the playoffs...nevertheless that was a tremendous roof job in a small amount of space by 75.

 

[BruinDust]

Some people are absolutely dying inside.

I've quite enjoyed seeing their transition here from "useless plugs" who "can't skate/play" to being guys who would have been "too expensive to acquire anyway".

Can't have them on the Bruins because they suck and now we can't have them on the Bruins because they are too good. It's a shame.

When have Reaves or Wilson been portrayed here as useless plugs?

And perhaps it's time to stop the narrative that dressing a Reaves or Wilson acts as some sort of deterrent. Cause both were in the line-up last night, and Reaves presence didn't deter Wilson one little bit from laying waste to Marchesault with a late blind-side hit. Luckily Marchesault wasn't injured badly on the play, but it could of been pretty bad.

 

[Pia8988]

When have Reaves or Wilson been portrayed here as useless plugs?

And perhaps it's time to stop the narrative that dressing a Reaves or Wilson acts as some sort of deterrent. Cause both were in the line-up last night, and Reaves presence didn't deter Wilson one little bit from laying waste to Marchesault with a late blind-side hit. Luckily Marchesault wasn't injured badly on the play, but it could of been pretty bad.

And if Marchessault was hurt. Reaves fighting Wilson after the fact won't make him heal any better.

Reaves got the goal, but overall saw him flub a lot of pucks. Could see him getting a Matt Martin deal and that team regretting it. Get him for under 1.3 and sure, bring him in to be the 12th/13th.

 

[BruinDust]

And if Marchessault was hurt. Reaves fighting Wilson after the fact won't make him heal any better.

Reaves got the goal, but overall saw him flub a lot of pucks. Could see him getting a Matt Martin deal and that team regretting it. Get him for under 1.3 and sure, bring him in to be the 12th/13th.

I'll take Reaves on my team, no problem.

But if I'm Sweeney not a chance to I get into a bidding war for his services.

 

[Chief Nine]

I'll take Reaves on my team, no problem.

But if I'm Sweeney not a chance to I get into a bidding war for his services.

If he wants/gets anything over 1.5 million, good for him. He's earned it but it's not a good match for the Bruins at that price

 

[DrJustice]

It's true, after a three day weekend nobody has the time to own up to the strawman argument perpetuated by the regulars in this thread.

I haven't gotten the indication that many people think the things being discussed in this thread are USELESS and have NO PLACE IN HOCKEY, it's so obvious I didn't think that even that needed to be said.

Everyone seems to love Ryan Reaves in this thread but I've only seen one person actually say they would pay him. It's pretty hypocritical to try and stick Reaves in our face and then say "but I wouldn't actually pay him."

Should the Bruins have traded down from the 1st round to the 2nd to acquire him at the draft last season? No.

Should the Bruins have traded with Pittsburgh assets to acquire him at the trade deadline? Must have missed all of those trade proposals.

Should the Bruins go out and hand him a Matt Martin contract that pays $2.5M to play a on the 4th line? Doesn't seem like it.

You know who sticks out to me just as much as a guy like Ryan Reaves? Tomas Nosek. A guy with a cap hit of $612K who skates hard, hits hard and chips in when he needs to. A guy like Tanev on the Jets. Cheap guys on the right side of 25 who you don't have to overpay to bring their skillset to the team.

Could the Bruins have used a guy like Ryan Reaves on the team? Yes, and I'll be the first to admit I underrated him personally as far as his individual skill set. But he doesn't make the difference between the Bruins beating the Tampa Bay Lightning and he certainly doesn't help us score at even strength (the true reason the team lost)

 

[BruinDust]

If he wants/gets anything over 1.5 million, good for him. He's earned it but it's not a good match for the Bruins at that price

I'd go anywhere between 1.5 and 2.0. That 500k ain't a deal breaker.

What is a deal breaker for me is term. 3 years or more and I'm not interested.

 

[Chief Nine]

I'd go anywhere between 1.5 and 2.0. That 500k ain't a deal breaker.

What is a deal breaker for me is term. 3 years or more and I'm not interested.

Right, I should have mentioned that it would likely be a 3 year deal and it's not a good match for the Bruins at all. Can't blame Reaves, he's gonna get a nice deal with term but not here

 

[ODAAT]

Figured there would be a huge line in here for a crow sandwich, but nary a peep. Atleast the ryan reaves is a useless hockey player comments have stopped.

Should have been called for a crosscheck, but they let them play at times in the playoffs...nevertheless that was a tremendous roof job in a small amount of space by 75.

I`m one who will require digging my crow fork outta the cupboards, honestly haven`t seen Reaves in past playoff performances do much of anything that really helped his team. Different dynamic recently for the Knights. Wilson has always been a guy with some talent, he`s just an idiot though which makes me have a hard time to pull for the guy

 

[LouJersey]

It's true, after a three day weekend nobody has the time to own up to the strawman argument perpetuated by the regulars in this thread.

I haven't gotten the indication that many people think the things being discussed in this thread are USELESS and have NO PLACE IN HOCKEY, it's so obvious I didn't think that even that needed to be said.

Everyone seems to love Ryan Reaves in this thread but I've only seen one person actually say they would pay him. It's pretty hypocritical to try and stick Reaves in our face and then say "but I wouldn't actually pay him."

Should the Bruins have traded down from the 1st round to the 2nd to acquire him at the draft last season? No.

Should the Bruins have traded with Pittsburgh assets to acquire him at the trade deadline? Must have missed all of those trade proposals.

Should the Bruins go out and hand him a Matt Martin contract that pays $2.5M to play a on the 4th line? Doesn't seem like it.

You know who sticks out to me just as much as a guy like Ryan Reaves? Tomas Nosek. A guy with a cap hit of $612K who skates hard, hits hard and chips in when he needs to. A guy like Tanev on the Jets. Cheap guys on the right side of 25 who you don't have to overpay to bring their skillset to the team.

Could the Bruins have used a guy like Ryan Reaves on the team? Yes, and I'll be the first to admit I underrated him personally as far as his individual skill set. But he doesn't make the difference between the Bruins beating the Tampa Bay Lightning and he certainly doesn't help us score at even strength (the true reason the team lost)

Good post. Reaves at anything over 1 mil is over payment IMO.

 

[DrJustice]

Good post. Reaves at anything over 1 mil is over payment IMO.

Exactly. More interested in the Bruins acquiring the next Ryan Reaves than overpaying for the current one.

 

[LouJersey]

Exactly. More interested in the Bruins acquiring the next Ryan Reaves than overpaying for the current one.

If Vegas re-inks Reaves, I would ask Vegas about Keegan Kolesar, who like Gabrielle has had troubling adjusting to being a pro.. Try to mold him into a Reaves/Thornton hybrid that can hit.

 

[NDiesel]

Figured there would be a huge line in here for a crow sandwich, but nary a peep. Atleast the ryan reaves is a useless hockey player comments have stopped.

Should have been called for a crosscheck, but they let them play at times in the playoffs...nevertheless that was a tremendous roof job in a small amount of space by 75.

One Stanley Cup finals game isn't enough for me to eat crow and say Reaves is a good hockey player, especially given his long history of never getting more than 13 points in a season. 43 playoff games, 3 goals. For a team that needed depth scoring badly come playoff time he definitely would not help.

He did have a very good game, good for him I suppose. He's going to get massively overpaid for what he brings this offseason.

 

[LouJersey]

One Stanley Cup finals game isn't enough for me to eat crow and say Reaves is a good hockey player, especially given his long history of never getting more than 13 points in a season. 43 playoff games, 3 goals. For a team that needed depth scoring badly come playoff time he definitely would not help.

He did have a very good game, good for him I suppose. He's going to get massively overpaid for what he brings this offseason.

You can say that about 90% of the UFA contracts handed out IMO.

Browse - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Look at some of those salaries these guys got paid before. Awful.

The whole "reaves can't play" thing was nonsense here by the "anti-goon" patrol.

He's averaged only 8 minutes of ice time, but yet his average line per 82.gp is 5-5-10, 260 hits with a shooting percentage of 11.0

 

[Chief Nine]

You can say that about 90% of the UFA contracts handed out IMO.

Browse - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Look at some of those salaries these guys got paid before. Awful.

The whole "reaves can't play" thing was nonsense here by the "anti-goon" patrol.

He's averaged only 8 minutes of ice time, but yet his average line per 82.gp is 5-5-10, 260 hits with a shooting percentage of 11.0

Who said Reaves is useless? I just did a quick check and I think everyone's in agreement about his talent from what I've read on both sides of this discussion

 

[LouJersey]

Who said Reaves is useless? I just did a quick check and I think everyone's in agreement about his talent from what I've read on both sides of this discussion

Goes back to when Pittsburgh acquired him. I don't think it's in this thread.

 

[Chief Nine]

Goes back to when Pittsburgh acquired him. I don't think it's in this thread.

Oh ok. Thought I was missing something. Personally I've always loved the way Reaves plays, thought he was great for the Blues and it was a savvy move for the Pens to add him