Devils 2017-18 team discussion (player news and notes) II - Let's Overreact

[NJDevs26]

It does suck. But Amanda really needs to try to stop taking it as personal, it is such common place on the internet and twitter in general. Though I know she has anxiety issues and such... so that is easier said than done.

She does? Well **** that makes it even worse.

It's easy for any of us to say she should ignore it, cause it's Twitter and nothing's ever gained by taking bots and ******** seriously but literally part of her job is to interact with the fans so she can't exactly avoid it entirely either (and it's likely worse being a female on Twitter too cause of all the non-hockey related 'judgements'). I like that she gets personal with her own Tweets, everyone shouldn't have to show no personality on Twitter to avoid the idiots.

 

[Darkauron]

She does? Well **** that makes it even worse.

It's easy for any of us to say she should ignore it, cause it's Twitter and nothing's ever gained by taking bots and ******** seriously but literally part of her job is to interact with the fans so she can't exactly avoid it entirely either (and it's likely worse being a female on Twitter too cause of all the non-hockey related 'judgements'). I like that she gets personal with her own Tweets, everyone shouldn't have to show no personality on Twitter to avoid the idiots.

Yeah I don't blame her, it is always pretty rough dealing with social media. She talks about talking to her therapist every so often, missing friends from back home, and being away from Montreal must be really rough for her. But man she is doing such an amazing job, she is such a great personality , and hard worker.

 

[glenwo2]

not true, if we never made the hall trade, we wouldn't have won nico, what with his lottery luck

If the Devils don't make the playoffs and have a 1% chance of winning the lottery, I think they win it because.....#HALL

 

[glenwo2]

Btw Cory may start back to back this weekend and a little nugget for the criticism of him not starting back to back last weekend

Did not know that.

Would've helped if Hynes didn't STATUS QUO this bit of knowledge like Lou had done in the past.

At least then we wouldn't have been so pissed at him for starting Kinky.

 

[glenwo2]

Hynes should have kept that in-house

Why?

He caught a ton of UNNECESSARY(now that we know) heat because he decided to pull a "Status Quo Lou" and not mention the minor injury which would've explained away his decision. It's not like he revealed WHAT the injury was or anything.

 

[NJDevils7]

This Amanda Stein thing is so embarrassing. So some twitter troll called her "fat"... She can just block the person if she wants. Its not as if someone is threatening her. How is that such a big deal? To the point that she is tweeting about it multiple times, the Devils account is tweeting about it, Matt Loughlin, ect... How is she not embarrassed that she's making this such a big deal?

It's the most unprofessional and immature thing I've ever seen from a reporter. She can’t ignore a troll who calls her a mean word? And needs to vent about it her official twitter account for providing Devils news? The amount of personal stuff on her twitter is just annoying in my opinion. Yes, its her own account and she can post anything she wants, but don't you think she would have some sense of professionalism to separate work and her personal life? Not saying she should be a robot but it’s a little much.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

This Amanda Stein thing is so embarrassing. So some twitter troll called her "fat"... She can just block the person if she wants. Its not as if someone is threatening her. How is that such a big deal? To the point that she is tweeting about it multiple times, the Devils account is tweeting about it, Matt Loughlin, ect... How is she not embarrassed that she's making this such a big deal?

It's the most unprofessional and immature thing I've ever seen from a reporter. She can’t ignore a troll who calls her a mean word? And needs to vent about it her official twitter account for providing Devils news? The amount of personal stuff on her twitter is just annoying in my opinion. Yes, its her own account and she can post anything she wants, but don't you think she would have some sense of professionalism to separate work and her personal life? Not saying she should be a robot but it’s a little much.

Yeah i dont like that the team is involved in such petty drama. But I also could care less about it so.. its just weird

 

[Bleedred]

I can't even read what that tweet says, I'm having trouble reading any tweets right now, even the Hynes tweet about Cory, but I did catch that earlier. Not sure what the problem is. I'm having trouble reading it on my phone also. So I don't know exactly what the comments were.

This Amanda Stein thing is so embarrassing. So some twitter troll called her "fat"... She can just block the person if she wants. Its not as if someone is threatening her. How is that such a big deal? To the point that she is tweeting about it multiple times, the Devils account is tweeting about it, Matt Loughlin, ect... How is she not embarrassed that she's making this such a big deal?

It's the most unprofessional and immature thing I've ever seen from a reporter. She can’t ignore a troll who calls her a mean word? And needs to vent about it her official twitter account for providing Devils news? The amount of personal stuff on her twitter is just annoying in my opinion. Yes, its her own account and she can post anything she wants, but don't you think she would have some sense of professionalism to separate work and her personal life? Not saying she should be a robot but it’s a little much.

I'm guessing someone took a shot at her weight, which is cheap shot for a multitude of reasons. First of all, she's really not that big if you ask me, and with my emaciated toothpick status, everyone looks probably 20 pounds heavier than they really are to me. She's really not that big. And second of all, the need to insult a reporter (or analyst/TV personality) about their weight is uncalled for. It's irrelevant what they look like. This isn't a beauty pageant. You're not being forced to go out on a date with the woman. When it comes to something like hockey coverage, I don't care how attractive/unattractive they are, nor what gender they are. I care more about the product. Also, if someone is overweight, they know they're overweight. Trust me, I was overweight for many years of my life. Having to hear people to tell me how big I was, really was not the catalyst in deciding to make a change for me.

There's many people on internet forums, social media, youtube, etc, who make accounts just to troll people. I watch youtube videos for mukbangs when I'm bored. There's one girl on there, who had a chat session during one of her videos and she has El Salvadorian ancestry. There were a couple trolls in there calling her every disgusting slur you could think of and one person told her she looked like a transsexual. There's nothing wrong with being transsexual, but obviously the person calling her this, was doing so as an insult. This is uncalled for.

I like Amanda, I think she's very attractive. I prefer her looks and her type to Julie, who looks a little more Barbie Doll-ish to me. If you've ever looked at her instagram, she takes a lot of selfies and looks very confident, she seems to have a very healthy self esteem. And even my opinion on her looks, is irrelevant. Can you blame her for trolls caring more about her appearance than the content that she provides? Sometimes these comments are hurtful, even to people with the greatest self esteem. They're uncalled for. She might not even be taking it as personal, as much as she's insulted that someone had to care more about her looks than the content she provides. I once had a direct family member tell me he thought I was lying and had an imaginary girlfriend, because he didn't ever see a picture of us together. That made me feel like shit. That was one of the most insulting things that I've ever heard. How's that supposed to make me feel? He was implying the girl was too good looking for me. Like I'm a second class citizen.

If you think she's unattractive? Just don't comment. There's a lot of people I think are unattractive, but I don't feel the need to tell them.

 

[Emperoreddy]

It’s her twitter. She can share personal stories if she wants. People can ignore it if they don’t like it. We have two other beat writers.

There is no defense for people being twats and taking jabs at her weight. That just isn’t acceptable on any level. She shouldn’t have to apologize for being upset by it either. It isn’t her fault these people are assholes.

 

[Bleedred]

If you don't like her Twitter posts, you can always unfollow her and they'll go away.

Apparently, people were making fun of her for being single and implying it was because of her weight.

I'd totally go out with her. She seems to love to wear her Devils gear everywhere, she's seems to enjoy being with the team, she knows a lot about the game. I could talk to her 5 hours a night about hockey (and I wouldn't spend so much time here!) and I probably wouldn't scare her away like the last few girlfriends, who wanted nothing to do with talking hockey or watching the games.

 

[Sheros Beard Policy]

I can't even read what that tweet says, I'm having trouble reading any tweets right now, even the Hynes tweet about Cory, but I did catch that earlier. Not sure what the problem is. I'm having trouble reading it on my phone also. So I don't know exactly what the comments were.


I'm guessing someone took a shot at her weight, which is cheap shot for a multitude of reasons. First of all, she's really not that big if you ask me, and with my emaciated toothpick status, everyone looks probably 20 pounds heavier than they really are to me. She's really not that big. And second of all, the need to insult a reporter (or analyst/TV personality) about their weight is uncalled for. It's irrelevant what they look like. This isn't a beauty pageant. You're not being forced to go out on a date with the woman. When it comes to something like hockey coverage, I don't care how attractive/unattractive they are, nor what gender they are. I care more about the product. Also, if someone is overweight, they know they're overweight. Trust me, I was overweight for many years of my life. Having to hear people to tell me how big I was, really was not the catalyst in deciding to make a change for me.

There's many people on internet forums, social media, youtube, etc, who make accounts just to troll people. I watch youtube videos for mukbangs when I'm bored. There's one girl on there, who had a chat session during one of her videos and she has El Salvadorian ancestry. There were a couple trolls in there calling her every disgusting slur you could think of and one person told her she looked like a transsexual. There's nothing wrong with being transsexual, but obviously the person calling her this, was doing so as an insult. This is uncalled for.

I like Amanda, I think she's very attractive. I prefer her looks and her type to Julie, who looks a little more Barbie Doll-ish to me. If you've ever looked at her instagram, she takes a lot of selfies and looks very confident, she seems to have a very healthy self esteem. And even my opinion on her looks, is irrelevant. Can you blame her for trolls caring more about her appearance than the content that she provides? Sometimes these comments are hurtful, even to people with the greatest self esteem. They're uncalled for. She might not even be taking it as personal, as much as she's insulted that someone had to care more about her looks than the content she provides. I once had a direct family member tell me he thought I was lying and had an imaginary girlfriend, because he didn't ever see a picture of us together. That made me feel like ****. That was one of the most insulting things that I've ever heard. How's that supposed to make me feel? He was implying the girl was too good looking for me. Like I'm a second class citizen.

If you think she's unattractive? Just don't comment. There's a lot of people I think are unattractive, but I don't feel the need to tell them.

You're good people Bleedred

 

[NJDevs26]

If you think it's one troll that set her off, you're sadly mistaken. I'd bet money it's a good number more than that. It's the Internet, and it's Twitter. Many people troll public figures, times two when it's female journalists. For some reason nobody ever comments on ugly guy journalists but people are superficially judgemental when it comes to women.

 

[Bleedred]

You're good people Bleedred

Thanks, I appreciate it.

 

[Billdo]

If you think it's one troll that set her off, you're sadly mistaken. I'd bet money it's a good number more than that. It's the Internet, and it's Twitter. Many people troll public figures, times two when it's female journalists. For some reason nobody ever comments on ugly guy journalists but people are superficially judgemental when it comes to women.

It’s 2017, the Internet has given people a “voice” who shouldn’t necessarily have one and an avenue to broadcast just absolutely asinine remarks. It’s disgusting.

 

[Zippy316]

Just so we get the full story. Here is the tweet Stein is referencing calling her fat:



Which seems to be some idiot bitter because Stein liked a post by Devils Director of Hockey Communications Sarah Baicker.



And this all started from a comment thread where Stein said she didn't quit, she left TSN on good terms. And then a thread started where people argued (WHO GIVES A f***) saying leaving a job is quitting.

This is a good part of the reason why I had the majority of the internet.

 

[Bleedred]

Just so we get the full story. Here is the tweet Stein is referencing calling her fat:



Which seems to be some idiot bitter because Stein liked a post by Devils Director of Hockey Communications Sarah Baicker.



And this all started from a comment thread where Stein said she didn't quit, she left TSN on good terms. And then a thread started where people argued (WHO GIVES A ****) saying leaving a job is quitting.

This is a good part of the reason why I had the majority of the internet.

That Twitter account totally reeks of a troll account, that’s on there to cause trouble. Especially with the lack of followers. Only like 18 followers and 21 following? Not that I expect hundreds or anything. Especially the fact that this user doesn’t have his real name or an actual person name on there, at least not from what I can tell.

 

[MartyOwns]

we can say twats now? twats twats twats twaaaaats. twats

 

[njdevil26]

That Twitter account is an abomination. I scrolled through the timeline to find this person body shaming women, supporting the campaign of an accused child molester, celebrating the death of someone, and so on....

I can see how on the surface, it seems like an overreaction to a troll.... HOWEVER... we simply don't have to go through what women in sports have to go through. It's disgusting really. This is far from the first person to make a comment on Amanda's looks. Christ, she's not even fat. Apparently anything other than a stick figure makes someone fat nowadays? She's an attractive woman... but that's not nearly the point. She's a professional doing her job... and doing a great job at it. Also by the way... Amanda's been through some things in her personal life which may help explain why the Devils and others were quick to come to her aid... We all should anyway.

I have followed her and Sarah from when they were at their previous jobs... Sarah used to get it a lot worse and a lot more frequent. Any time she posted anything that could be perceived as negative about the Flyers, she would have countless trolls telling her that she's a woman and she doesn't know anything about hockey... Or she would sometimes make a good and informative post about the team and some guy would show up telling her what he would like to do to her.

It is a near impossible life for a woman working in the public world.... The only thing we can do is shut down these trolls and let these women know that we support them and that they do an amazing job in their profession... because they are both FANTASTIC and we are lucky to have them. I hope we eventually live in a world where a woman can perform their professional duties without having to deal with someone's opinion on their looks. If you don't think it's a big deal.... it is.

 

[Bleedred]

we can say twats now? twats twats twats twaaaaats. twats

I’m kind of bummed about certain words being filtered, which weren’t filtered before the change.

I forgot what I typed the other day, which I was shocked to see was filtered on here haha.

 

[Bleedred]

That Twitter account is an abomination. I scrolled through the timeline to find this person body shaming women, supporting the campaign of an accused child molester, celebrating the death of someone, and so on....

I can see how on the surface, it seems like an overreaction to a troll.... HOWEVER... we simply don't have to go through what women in sports have to go through. It's disgusting really. This is far from the first person to make a comment on Amanda's looks. Christ, she's not even fat. Apparently anything other than a stick figure makes someone fat nowadays? She's an attractive woman... but that's not nearly the point. She's a professional doing her job... and doing a great job at it. Also by the way... Amanda's been through some things in her personal life which may help explain why the Devils and others were quick to come to her aid... We all should anyway.

I have followed her and Sarah from when they were at their previous jobs... Sarah used to get it a lot worse and a lot more frequent. Any time she posted anything that could be perceived as negative about the Flyers, she would have countless trolls telling her that she's a woman and she doesn't know anything about hockey... Or she would sometimes make a good and informative post about the team and some guy would show up telling her what he would like to do to her.

It is a near impossible life for a woman working in the public world.... The only thing we can do is shut down these trolls and let these women know that we support them and that they do an amazing job in their profession... because they are both FANTASTIC and we are lucky to have them. I hope we eventually live in a world where a woman can perform their professional duties without having to deal with someone's opinion on their looks. If you don't think it's a big deal.... it is.

Nice post.

I went through his likes and other things he follows and my first thought was “He’s one of them I guess. So that explains that”.

 

[OmNomNom]

While this is an important matter, should we keep discussing it on the OT thread? Or since one can consider Amanda part of the team, does this count, despite it not being hockey related?

The internet gives voice to all people, good and bad, and people take offense to various things, triggering a cycle of retribution.

Calling people fat is idiotic and uncalled for. Period. She deserves to call him out and publicly shame him. But it wouldn't surprise me if he came back with more shit (e.g. Sara's tweet setting him off for this one)

 

[MartyOwns]

bee dee dee boop boop boop this just in....anonymous people are a-holes on social media...bee dee dee boop boop boop

 

[Devils Dominion]

Amanda, block the idiot and ignore the negativity and stupidity.
Move on

 

[njdevil26]

While this is an important matter, should we keep discussing it on the OT thread? Or since one can consider Amanda part of the team, does this count, despite it not being hockey related?

The internet gives voice to all people, good and bad, and people take offense to various things, triggering a cycle of retribution.

Calling people fat is idiotic and uncalled for. Period. She deserves to call him out and publicly shame him. But it wouldn't surprise me if he came back with more **** (e.g. Sara's tweet setting him off for this one)

I just always feel bad for what these women have to go through. I'm fat. I weight 340 pounds right now (I was 418 in April so YAY ME)... but I can perform a real estate transaction or an appraisal without one person either hitting on me or telling me what they think of my appearance. Life is vastly different for a woman and it shouldn't be. I consider Amanda part of the team. I find myself getting information about the team from her on a daily basis... She's important.

Actually... as an aside... you know the Facebook group Devils All Day All Night? Someone had posted a trade idea a while back and I told them it was ridiculous and would never happen or whatever... the dude sends me a DM, meanwhile I'm not friends with this person on Facebook and never met them in person, and told me that I'm a fat POS and my fiance is disgusting and we should both die.

People do things like that to make themselves feel better I guess.


BTW let's keep this convo going until the inevitable barrage of bad news about tonight's lineup comes out.

 

[Devils Dominion]

Vats wasn't good last night.

He and Coleman were Responsible for the OT goal and didn't tie up Shaw's stick on the other goal.